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keep of chinaman

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by surfercalavera, Dec 14, 2005.

  1. surfercalavera

    surfercalavera Big Dog

    anybody know which keep used to chinaman??
  2. B

    B CH Dog

    Yep... and it is more scientific and perfect than any average joe could afford. The "Conditioning" edition of TG's magazine "The Journal" has the nitty gritty details. Let's just say that he had constant blood tests, slept in an oxygen depletion tent, and was worked with the best the state of the art conditioning equipment and supplements had to offer. You would be hard pressed nowadays to duplicate the keep for under $5000 or more. This was one SERIOUS keep. I would tell you more but I couldn't cover the entire article in so few words. He explains canine nutrition, fuel sources, workout loads, and all sorts of various other reads. The entire article spans numerous pages and gives good info even for people without the big money they had. I think between the "Conditioning" issue and the "Aftercare" issue the entire subscription was worth it. Toss in the fact that you got two more issues with the same price and it was a no brainer. In fact there are a few articles in the first year that include articles from several people you see every day on this forum. There is some good info in there.


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  3. SFK

    SFK Top Dog

    Ha ha you're dead on B! I don't think he was even fed solid food. I have a copy of the old Gamedog Digest that has all of the info in it from 1985. He was so far ahead of everyone back then.
  4. Do you guys feel this "keep" was what made Ch Chinaman a legend? Do you feel pampering will improve performance? Now, I am not saying do not take care of the dog, I am questioning if this "keep" was an overkill.

    Oxygen depleting tent? Pre-masticated food? Santeria?

    Did male hormones have anything to do with his success?
  5. B

    B CH Dog

    Obviously we're talking about this in a historical context since Chinaman has long since passed after leaving his mark on the gamedog community. My answers are as follows:

    1) Nope, you have to have the raw material to sculpt what you need and Chinaman had PLENTY of it or he wouldn't have been put into a keep like this. They looked at him plenty of times and he always showed how he has been represented. Your job first and foremost is to win. When you take care of your keep with 100% or more of your ability then the rest is up to the dog. Obviously the dog was a good one and did what he was bred to do. No amount of "pampering" will make a good dog. It just makes sure that the dog has no reason to fail except his own drive and gameness. You always want to make sure that everything on your end is perfect and then let the dog do what he has to do. The better you prepare the dog the less variables you have to deal with when it comes time.

    2) Oxygen depletion helps raise red blood cell which helps hold more oxygen especially once he was taken to an oxygen rich environment. There is no such thing as overkill in the fast lane. His red blood was monitored every few days and his nutrition was and still is to be considered some of the BEST you could offer a working athlete.

    3) :rolleyes: Any fast lane dog is going to be using the best "supplements" you have to offer. This is just part of the fast lane. This just aids recovery so the same or harder work can be accomplished sooner. If you know what you are doing you can put a dog in the best possible shape and the rest is up to the dog.


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  6. dianabol

    dianabol Big Dog

    damn b i love that post ...
  7. texasboy

    texasboy Big Dog

    anyone know where to find copies of those magazines or articles now by chance???
  8. gametime

    gametime Pup

    i know the journal by tm garner kennels you can order through his website...the sdj i dont think it is published anymore
  9. Caos

    Caos Top Dog

    I hear TG magzine is out I have old sdj,bulldog review and pit bull anthology-Jeffrey Burke who was made only 500 copies in that mag you can find Chinaman keep.
  10. dmd66

    dmd66 Big Dog

    how old was chinaman when he went through this keep? age could have played apart in that keep. how old was he in his frist hunt and weight?
  11. Caos

    Caos Top Dog

    45lbs in his first

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