jimmy zalesky dogs

my bad i said dozer x sassy i meant solomon x sassy

 

sally was a littermate to king gator and ""never"" ever gave a pup she was bred more then ones and swapt hands to 3 diferend kennels. al the atempt of the dogman around where fruteless..she was simply to pure bred.to give pups

 

note one of the rezens whe started to look for battle croses was due to the reducing of hybrid viger . the males ended up with one testicel bitches tru small of no litter at all these bad genes came tru ch spike. with dogs like magic and king gator and sutch we took it as far as we could. king gator was shooting blanks til age 2 i belive sally was chekt more then ones and her thing inside(forgot the name) was dried up, stil the diferend dogman tought they could get ofspring of of her and whanted to give it a shot because of her pedegree.
Now for the record i send a couple of dogs over to my frind lioahard kennels back then. sally was the bitch to be bred to solomon luther and if there would be3 everyone would be happy there where only 2 males and i mised the boat, witch i was perfectly ok with. as lionhard is a VERY trusted frind of mine we go back to the eurly 80,s.he hase done me good more then ones. if rusler sold a bitch with a fake ped to make money then i can say sorry not my fauld. but the fact stays that there where only 2 males from that litter.end of story

 

yeh i had the dam in ireland and soon sent her on as she was a hardkeeper and i was told recently that sally and sassy were the same bitch but the lad was mistaken, rustler bred the litter in question, yeh ur right they def werent outa dozer/sassy , the mother off dozer an shifty had a literm8 bro which was the sire to elsa but i cant rem his name,

 

no one say rustler made a fake ped but u!
i wouldnt talk bad about a man who was my friend and died recently, al i say is he bred elsa so he knows her ped, sally had 3 pups and 1 that lived and that was elsa.

 

too pure bred too give pups, never heard that one before
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=348906

i also had turbo many years ago and struggled to get pups from her,but i think she was just too old or done but we had this nice daughter of her
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=145909

 

theres is a little controversy here as the fella who had sire of elsa said he had defects and culled him as a young dog but it looks like he dealt him to rustler he also said sally could not have pups so for watever reason lies were told , i think this is why limey doubted it so much ,as far as im aware none of the double dealin was done by rustler

 

i spoke with lionheart today and he says he got 3 pups from sally in al her time and confirmed to me he bred elsa and sold her to rustler and she is bred correct on peds online , so you say he is a trusted friend from early 80s so now u agree or you continue too stir shit mr limey..thanks for making urself out to be mr know it all ,pffff

 

someone called T who some should know just confirmed the litter as did oddbods wife

there is another one from the elsa but I am obliged not to reveal the ped

 

it ""sounds"" like a dubble cross yes , but let me trow in some more food for tought. who put the pedegree of sally up there?????. funny thing also is lionheard did not took/ take her!! she whent straight to a man named simon same guy who had sassy,s brother. funny thing also is, she is listed as a ""black and tan"". now unless im color blind she was a dirty bucskin bitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the day she was pickt up here at my place................. like this picture strange isend it . Jhonny dark i never claimed i know it al i do know a lot enoughf to know that ch swamper never produced anything of importense being hand pickt bij bobby hall from a newspaper litter!! witch is a story on itself..

 

One thing you never answered limey, in youre "welcome post" and completely off topic, but interested myself! was you ever into the S.B.T`S....JUST CURIOUS?

 

swamper could have been as crap as ur terror dog but this thread aint about ch swamper an bobby hall so dont try change the subject but i can tell u this that charlotte was one hell of a bitch that i seen myself ending the career of a good 2xw in 40mins .. and this so called lad u talk about is the guy i had a 20 min converstaion with today , she aint like a rottweiler black an tan like some of ur dogs she has black comin threw her buckskin coat..
now i know u tryin ur best too lie ur way outa this but u keep talkin and il keep shovelin , the moral of the story is sally come from ur yard simon got 3 pups off her ,,1 is called elsa and shes in our dogs ped ..wots ur problem.. il let u dig on ,ive proved my point ,goodluck and btw u might not be colour blind but ur arrogant and ful off shit.

 

ps johnny dark your lionhard contacts are not the lionhard kennel im on about!!! they are compleetly difrend people.
my problem is im not convinsed she IS the bitch i bred. to manny loose ends here, and for a man who resendly was slagging the limey dogs you al of a sudden made a quik turnaround!!!and i aint trying to lie my way out. never did never wil.

 

my intention was too prove how elsa was bred and that i have , thankyou for this debate

 

no u dont want her too be that bitch(sally) because she is crossed into junkyard knls blood and u dont like those guys but im certain its her ok ,
she come from your yard too simon then too rustler then too tm & sleeper cell then too me then i sent her too rickyb via farmer boys yard where bulldoghistorian seen her himself . imsure ricky b will have a picture and i will acquire one if it means too finally put this subject too rest .

 

im sorry for this faul up and apologize to the board and its members it was never my intention to go this rout, as i kinda predicted ""i didnt whanted to be lured into a pissing contest"".I refuse to ecsept the so called truth and The words from a man, who obviusly hase been lieing about culling sally,s brother and about claiming he never got pups of the bitch i send over. when later nobody els got anything of of her including farmer boys.
Hollow words that mean nothing to me out of a mans mouth who obviusly is a liar. and iven IF it would have been the case that she did produced.the los of integrety is sutch that nobody wil even know for sure. and thats how the cookie crumbles. last but not least again de""origenal"" lionhard kennels i was on about is sound and hase always been good to me and visa versa............

 

maybe someone from lionheart told u lies mr limey but it forsure wasnt me,
that bitch was difficult too get pups from and imtold that u had too hit her 2nd day she showed blood too make her pregnant and that is why the few others who bred too her had no sucess.. the bitch u posted the picture off aboe was the same bitch i had in my yard a few years back , i did say the tight bred werent of much talent at all but the crossed dogs did very well in the uk,

 

After many long trips every 2nd weekend and months of searching ads and info..we finally found dogmen..they in turn, led us to the man who eventually became our mentor. When we met, he had a small yard across from the police station and was active, using some of the Coplin(Heinzl's Gringo)stuff and along with Gomez had some of the Steinberg(Richeson) blood...which was basically Tudor..Williams.
This is the cleanest genetic blood I have ever seen..
The black dogs started showing a consistant style that I had never seen before and after asking around found that the DeCordova dogs had this, when on a hog they would take the bottom jaw and sleep on it. The red dogs were consistantly nosey.
This blood definately left it's mark in the hands of a few maf,wesp,stoneb,bigbrad..
I was proud to have had an opportunity to maintain it.

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [31239] :: BA'S QUIET RIOT

 

oops, that's Ritcheson blood..not Richeson

 

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