indian bolio/zebo men biters?

Good Post.I cannot understand W H Y somebody must discuss this. Manbiter = dead dog. This is crystal clear and very simple to understand. the point is: No other dog race is so friendly to persons as real Bulldogs....

 

Both were men-biter, Indian bolio and Adams' Zebo.. this is very clear...

Some today's bulldogs, descedent from Bolio or Zebo, are men-biter as well...

I have some dogs that are man-biter and very impressive performance bulldogs... I don't like to hide the truth inside political and/or wrong informations...

Jonas Klaus
(High Blood Bulldogs)

 

I f you bred man-biter then you are a part of the whole problem. To do this is a death-sin. You know Zebo and Bolio well? Did they bite you? Jonas its not about right or wrong informations. Its about right or wrong doing. And if you bred man-biter and call the offspring High-Blood-Bulldogs......well thats just stupid.

 

You know how no good dogmen or women would tolerate a men biter in there yard right
Please name one (yes only one) dogmen/women that “wouldn’t tolerate a man biter”. Hello, if no one “tolerated” such…there wouldn’t be canines! Nothing wrong with a dog that will protect it territory/owner. Trouble arises when people are clueless to the difference between a protective dog, and a legitimate “man-eater”. The later only one in a million will ever see in their life-time!


well you have herd the storys of bolio and zebo how they were men biters what would you of done if you went back in time or pretend that you were the ones that raise these dogs and noticed that this was a problem what were you of done
I would of petted them one the head and enjoy my time with them like any other dog! Now if you’re trying to say they were “man-eaters” you’d be inaccurate. Big deal a dog is protective of its property/owner. Was either of them “man-eaters”? NO! How are we sure? Just look at the facts-real simple. Each dog mentioned above changed hands numerous times. Webmistress mentioned her experience with Bolio in another thread. If one believes he was stolen…definitely can say he wasn’t a “man-eater”. Now Zebo, most have read all about him and his biting habits. Does that equal him deserving the title “man-eater”? Hell no! After all he was Lester’s house dog…not something a “man-eater” could ever be. The confusion always stems from individuals lack of understanding the terminology and what constitutes as a man-eater. By most peoples definition we need to cull the entire world of canines.


Tip of the day: If someone doesn’t want to risk the possibilities of having a man biter. Get a pet rock or rock yard is desiring more than one pet!

 

As far as the HA trait being passed down I couldnt say. We've got a line of very tightly bred Bullyson stock and NONE of them are HA at all. There have been a few that could only be handled by one person several years ago and they were managed accordingly. The two dogs that we had who were man-biters were MONSTERS when the right time came and thats the only reason they stayed around. Thats a tough call. If a dogs really good at what he does its hard to say "cull it". Some of the top producers in the world were man biters but there are still offspring off of that blood running around so someone somewhere made the decision not to cull. If there is a dog that comes after a child, thats a cull NO MATTER WHAT. Just IMO.

 

Then you have to cull EVERY manbiter. Or would you make a difference between manbiter and childbiter?

 

IF the published accounts are true, the Zebo was an unstable, dangerous dog. He (supposedly) tore the crap out of a young boy and damn near got shot for it (as he should have been).

A lot of people don't want to cull dangerous dogs because it might cost them some $$$$$ so they redefine dangerous down to where only the most super aggressive dog that is trying to attack EVERYONE it sees qualifys for the title. Since Zebo nearly killed a child THAT for sure qualifys to me as a dangerous, unstable dog. Some people like real protective, one person dogs. If you choose to breed those types of dogs, then you for sure should NEVER, EVER let one out of your hands if you aren't inclined to cull them. Because even someone you trust might breed that dog and then be less careful about placing them. And then you get dangerous dogs in the hands of the general public.

If you have dog like Zebo, and it NEVER comes in to contact with anyone unless under YOUR direct supervision and you keep ALL pups off of every breeding that is one thing. But the margin of error for a dog like that is very very small and unless you can be sure such a dog will never be in a position to hurt someone (and the breed overall) then don't breed those sorts of dogs, or let them live for that matter.

That goes to a lesser degree for dogs that will redirect when aroused, but "protective" Pitbulls are playing with fire. Some folks have a ready supply of asbestos gloves and can get away with playing with fire but get careless for just a second and............. there is your headline.

I recall reading where during his entire breeding program John Colby only had to cull one dog due to problems with human aggression so some iines do seem way less prone to being "protective" and in a Pitbull, IMO thats for the best. And I am aware of one breeder at least who breeds game-line dogs and selects for "protective" tempement and sells a LOT of dogs to the general public. IMO, that sucks.

 

IF the published accounts are true, the Zebo was an unstable, dangerous dog. He (supposedly) tore the crap out of a young boy and damn near got shot for it (as he should have been).
How was he unstable? Lester never had any problems with him, only time anything happened is when people refused to listen to his advice in regards to him. Grady didn’t either and Adam’s didn’t have a problem with him…problem came when he didn’t follow the golden rule; never allow a kid to be unsupervised around a dog! Still wouldn’t of gotten rid of him but the boss (wife) said he had to. Neither did Mr. J a problem with Zebo nor the numerous people that breed to him. So was it him and his genetics or simply complacency and lack of training? All realize most bulldogs simply rot on their chains and can’t even do something as simple as walk on a leash. Sure many can do well with that and have no issues…yet some can’t nor desire to! Bored dogs will take its anger and frustrations out of whatever is available. Some dig, some chew everything, some bite, some bark excessively, etc. The bottom line it has nothing to do with the dog and/or its genetic traits, simply the human factor and their errors.
[font=Verdana','sans-serif]Amazing how most claim to care for and enjoy this breed, yet they’re always yelling CULL. Never once taking blame or into account simple behavioral traits they created by man. To selfish and ignorant to seek the correct answers and simply go with the cop out way-cull. Yet it’s 99.9% of the time something the human created, not a “problem” within the dog or its traits. They don’t meet a performance/gameness standard-CULL. If one has behavioral problems…correct it or seek professional help to do such! [/font]

 

From what I understand, Zebo never "nearly killed a kid & almost got shot for it." That allegedly was Bolio who did that, not Zebo. Zebo DID bite a child, but from what I understand the quote was "bit him pretty good" not "almost killed him"

Furthermore, Zebo's life was never in danger. Mrs. A. forced Mr. A. to sell the him. Mr. A. wanted to keep Zebo, which leads me to believe there may have been more to his biting incident than we were told. For all we know, the Adams kid could have been out there teasing Zebo.

See this is why we have to be careful. One person tells another & that person tells another & that person tells another & before you know it what started out as a Zebo bit a kid & had to get re-homed turns into Zebo is a slavering kid-killing monster who was almost put down.

Bottom line - was Zebo unstable? I don't think so. All his bites were predictable. Furthermore, if he were unstable so many men both whom he knew & didn't know couldn't have handled him.

From what I read he seems like more of a protective dog, not an unstable one. In training terms his temprament would be called "sharp" & is actually desired in some dog sports.

As for Bolio, I cannot speak on him as I do not know much about him or his history.

 

without knowing much about him or his history as you say, you have made claims about Bolio as being a man biter

you never personally knew Zebo or Bolio, your views on either dog are equal and none carry any more validity then anyone else posting the thread that... like you...lack hands on experience with the two

 

Actually if you will read my previous thread, I asked if Bolio was a man-biter I never said Bolio was a man-biter. It was highbloodbulldogs who said he WAS a man-biter, not me.

Furthermore when ever we were discussing Bolio & biting, if you will look closely, I always used the word "alleged" or "supposedly" b/c I don't know if he really bit that kid or not.

And yes, you are correct, I do not have "hands-on" experince w/ either dog. But all one has to do is study the text on Zebo or ask folks who knew him & you can obtain all the info you need to know.

 

If it has teeth, it can and will bite.

 

It all depends on the situation IMO. A nasty man eater that is unpredictable would not live an extra minute on my yard. An excite type biter is fine with me as long as its predictable and not with malice towards me. That is JMHO.

 

i just realized almost first hand how people can, with total disregard for others safety, keep a totally HA dog around and refuse to put it down. My neighbor has a "pitbull" that is extremely HA, he has already bitten 2 people, one the lawn guy and the other a close friend of the owners. The dog also charges everyone including my mother who would be defenseless against an attack, and my other neighbors yound children. The people refuse to put him down for what reason i dont know, but that right there can show u how even a worthless dog is kept alive for no reason at all, could u imagine if someone like that had a zebo or bolio, there would be no way in hell that dog would ever be put down if it was worth that much. To me the owners of the zebo and bolio type pitdogs of the past were just selfish to keep them around, assuming that they were indeed manbiters

 

I think homework on this one should be very focused and on point. I believe the doggers that say there were and are a very minute part of the bulldog population (game APBTs) that are truely HA.

I think it is way more likely that a high drive, alpha dog is more likely to be asserting him/her self as the dominant animal in the pack rather than just being down right viscous to humans.

There are a multitude of human errors that will enable this type of behavior in any dog, but produces rather devastating results in a PB dog.(say vs a chi)

And dogs that get very excited are likely candidates for this kind of stereotyping as well.....like Mia said if it has teeth, it can and will bite - the challange is to fairly assess why.

 

Yes I understant your view point, but I said I HAVE some men-biter bulldogs... didn't told that I BREED them...

Well... In Brazil I still didn't saw one single dog with considerable Zebo blood that isn't agressive against humans... of course that is not many of them, just a few...

I never was attacked by one of my dogs, but some of them can't be handle by any stranger... unfortunatelly my best bitch is very agressive, this is bacause I never bred her, and when I will do, I will not sell the dogs to everyone... if you get some informations about me, you'll know that I don't want to make money with my dogs... so I don't sell dogs to everyone who have money, only for experienced breeders... This IS NOT "JUST STUPID"...

Doing what is right? Absolutely right!

Thank you.

 

I really don't think that Zebo was unstable... an agressive dog not necessairly is unstable... so, isn't dangerous too, in hands of some responsible owner/breeder.

I told and tell you all again... both Zebo and Bolio was agressive against human kind... you are missing the point, if a dog attack jut ONE human or try to do that, HE IS agressive, Chinaman was one too, but not against all humans of course... sounds like hipocrisy when someone consider a dog not human agressive because of his own experience with the dog in question that wasn't agressive against him... in my point of view a dog who's agressive can be called as men-biter as well... I don't think you need to see him biting somebody to tell "How, he is men-biter..."

Thank you.

 

HERE THE HISTORY OF ADAMS' GR. CH. ZEBO ROM, only to helps


(.....) Zebo's most noted match was against Ch. Greaser and how both sides thought they had trapped the other side by running in an "ace" on their opponent’s "average" dog. How wrong they both were. Champion Zebo was the black dog and Champion Greaser was the brindle. How they came to meet on a cool night in a barn in Ohio, is a complicated but interesting story. Champion Greaser was being campaigned at 44 pounds in and around Oklahoma and Champion Zebo was being matched around North Carolina at 40 pounds. "Greaser" was an extremely smart defensive type of dog that could really bite. He’d gained his deserved reputation by proving this in his first four matches against dogs that were not pushovers. Likewise, so had Zebo. The difference being Zebo’s matches were short ones, lasting only 22,26,17 and 33 minutes, all kills. After his fourth win, a man named Adams bought Zebo and took him back up north to Ohio. Adams had a friend named Hudson who had matched a dog at 44 pounds into a father and son team from St. Louis. Hudson’s dog was from Maurice Carver, and was a two time winner at 44 pounds named Tex. Hudson was a nice fellow but, could really get on your nerves bragging so much on his dog, because it was Tex this and Tex that, for as long as you would listen. I guess the team from St. Louis got tired of listening and just figured they would whip old Tex and shut Hudson up. Now, when you matched into this father and son team, you had better do three things, get a good dog, have the dog in good shape, and say your favorite prayer. As luck, or fate, or whatever you desire to call it goes, Tex got hurt in a chain fight and Hudson was going to have to pay the forfeit. Rather than give away money, he called Adams and offered Adams a deal. If Adams would take over the match with Zebo and win, Hudson would split the winnings with him and, if he lost Hudson would pay the whole bet. Adams had been walking Zebo and cutting his weight, for at that time there was a big convention in Mexico being matched up and Adams had turned Zebo’s weight in. The Mexican Convention was supposed to be the biggest and best ever put on but, the law intervened and it never did come about. Adams didn’t know the convention would fall apart, but he thought that as he had almost three months until the Mexican convention and Tex’s match was only three weeks away, that he could take over Tex’s match and win without getting hurt too much and still be healthy and set Zebo down in the Mexican convention. So, he agreed to take over the match, but told his backer that if Zebo wasn’t way ahead at 30 minutes he was going to pick him up, because he wanted to match him in the "Big Convention." Hudson agreed to this as with Zebo’s kill record…he would rather gamble and give up a few pounds to make it number 5 than give up the forfeit.
Meanwhile, out in St. Louis, the "team" had a dog that was considered to be the best 44 pounder of his time. This Greaser had started out being called Yuebanks’ Greaser. If my information is correct, Yuebanks’ campaigned Greaser in his first four matches. All wins over some highly regarded opponents. Greaser had given his fans real reason to call him the best 44 pounder alive, as his opponents were good caliber dogs like Moloney’s Alligator and Mayfield’s Go Devils. The "Team" purchased Greaser especially for the Tex match since old Tex was a good dog in his own rights and the "team" knew they had to have an above average dog in order to beat Tex (how and why the "team" got Greaser is only hearsay on my part, the point is Greaser was the best 44 pounder alive. And he was the dog they had to use on Tex.) So we have the stage set. The Ohio boys have an "Ace" named Zebo, which the "team" doesn’t know about. And the "team" has an "ace" named Greaser tuning up that the Ohio boys don’t know about.
Then it became time to put up or shut up for old Zebo, for Adams announced he was taking over Hudson’s match. The night of the battle of Champions arrived, with only Greaser’s side knowing now that they were going into Zebo. When they arrived, they wanted to see this "killer dog" they were matched into and laughingly said, "He don’t look like no killer to us." Adams, nor any of his backers, knew Zebo was going into a 4 x winner. They should have suspected something for fanciers from out west had driven all the way to Ohio to see Greaser knock off this killer dog. Jimmy Jobe, the editor of Pit Dog Report, a Mayfield magazine for bulldogs, drove all the way and didn’t even mention the match in his magazine. This match was one of the best kept secrets in the dog world and when the story of it taking place did start to circulate, the match was down played. The first report of it anywhere (that I am or was aware of) was in Richard Stratton’s book. When you read the account, it tends to make you believe Zebo "got lucky" and hurt Greaser bad at the beginning of the match. This is false as, Greaser was on all fours late in the fight.
When the dogs were weighed, Zebo weighed just over 40 pounds. Greaser hit the scales at exactly 44 pounds. As Adams circulated among his backers before the match, he reminded everyone that he was giving up 4 pounds and was going to pick Zebo up at 30 minutes because he’d only worked him for three weeks and 4 pounds was too much to spot. As they released the two champions, you could bet all you wanted on Zebo and get odds of 3 to 1 or three hundred against your one hundred. As bets were laid and odds were taken, the name Greaser started to finally slip out. Zebo’s backers were aware finally that this was not going to be a walk over. People started to worry about their bet because Adams had warned that he was gone at 30 if Zebo wasn’t way ahead. Adams said later, "When Dogman and Johnson called me to the side of the pit at about the five minute mark, and told me they recognized the brindle dog as CH. Greaser, any thought of picking Zebo up at thirty minutes was gone. I knew I would let him battle as long as he had any chance to win. I realized that I didn’t have to go to Mexico to prove that Zebo was a great dog, the chance had come to me." As the match progressed, it could be basically reported in two sentences…."Greaser is extremely smart on defense and punishes Zebo bad about the head. Zebo is extremely smart on getting to the brisket and punishes Greaser bad in the chest." That is how close the match was. You would think that the four pounds would tip the scales in Greaser’s favor, but Zebo was ever so gradually getting a little bit deeper in the chest and even though Greaser was as smart as ever relying on defense, he was forced to allow Zebo in more often as the match grew older. The following is an accurate account of the match as can be made but, remember as you read this excerpt from Mr. Stratton’s book, that in this writer’s opinion ( and I was there), Zebo took Greaser down a notch at a time over the entire match, where here it tends to make you think that Greaser was destroyed early.
Unfortunately, Zebo attacked Mr. Adams' son and nearly took his son's ear off. After the request of Mr. Adams' wife, Zebo was sold again, this time to Mr. Johnson who fought him twice more. The last time to a son of his litter mate brother, Vindicator. Mr. Johnson hoped to get another match in, but was unable to find any takers, despite the fact that Zebo was past seven at this point. Thus, Zebo was retired to stud, and lived to the age of 13, siring his last litter days before his death. He had lost sight at the end, due to the extensive damage he sustained, for no dog was ever able to get to his rear.
During the time of Zebo's career as a match dog, there were two other dogs in his weight class that too was making names for themselves: Stinson & Glover's Gr. Ch. Art and Giroux' Ch. Gunner, 4X winner. It was planned to have a "round robbin" for the title of the greatest match dog.lj yjy[jl]yt]jjljld, were as each dog would go into each other to prove who was the greatest match dog. Each of these great dogs where relatively close to each other in regard to location. But, for whatever reasons, and hearsay has provided many, the matches never materialized.
Vindicator, was a red/red nosed dog that many, who had witnessed him matched contend he was a better dog than Zebo. He was a two time winner, winning each in identical times of 1:30. One of those victories was over Finley's Ch. Bo. He lost his third to Cutchin's Ace. Vindicator died at a young age of heart worms.
Rosie, like Vindicator, was also red/red nosed, but was never formally matched, though she was tested for 1:10. She simply was considered to ge too valuable as a brood bitch. She lived to the age of 10, dying also of heart worms a month after her last litter.
Zebo produced Stepp's Ch. Willie and Adams' Ch. Katy when bred to Tomsic's Spider ROM. Ch. Willie was, as said by some, to have the same destructive force of his sire, by killing each of his opponents in times of :27, :54, and :29 minutes. Others produced by Zebo were Ch. Ruby, Ch. Abuelita, Ch. Zipper, Ch. Diamond Jim, Clemmon's 2XW Z-Boy, Nigger Tobe, Super Gnat's 2XW Blackie and Hughes' Gator just to name a few of the good dogs he sired. He is the grand sire to some great ones like Doc's Ch. Moe who was a Grand Champion until he ran into Red B's Ch. Charlie. Many said that Moe went to the well one time too many in his loss against Charlie. After his victories over Ch. Fargo and his brother Basket, too much was taken out of him to go into a much younger dog like Charlie. (......)

 

HERE THE HISTORY OF INDIAN BOLIO ROM, only to helps too
(by Pat Patrick)

Bolio was bred by Maurice Carver and Eddie Klaus in 1969. His sire was the famous pit ace Klaus' Zeke and his dam was Klaus' Goldie. Bolio's pedigree is very heavy in the blood of a bitch named Carver's Judy and her sister the great Carver's Black Widow. In fact he carried fifty percent of this blood in his breeding.

Bennett Clayton of Texas bought Bolio from Carver and sent him to Floyd Boudreaux to be matched, he was hooked into a dog that had killed both of his previous opponents. This dog's name was Rowdy. Bolio was contracted into Rowdy twice. The first time Floyd was not content with Bolio's conditioning for the fight, he knew that Bolio must be perfect to fight a dog of this caliber. After Floyd paid the forfeit he set up a new match with Rowdy for the big night of a southern convention. This time Bolio was in great shape and when they hit, it was a real war. Bolio killed Rowdy in about two hours and was voted best in show! At this same convention, there were many champions being shown and among them was Davis' Grand Champion Boomerang. I was not at this fight and I got my information from other dog men and the sporting dog magazines.

Sometime after the fight Bolio was sold to a fancier in southern California. The new owner of Bolio was not interested in matching him again, even though I felt he was the best 43 lb. dog alive at the time. He decided to use him as a stud dog and that was the best use for him. Bolio was so talented he never got hurt in rolls. I was lucky enough to see him roll many times against all kinds of dogs including dogs that were up to 15 pounds larger than he. He handled ALL his opponents with ease.

I have not seen a large number of the famous foundation dogs fight and maybe some of them were better dogs than Bolio. I have seen many fast lane dogs in action since these foundation dogs faded into the past and I can say that Bolio is the best dog I have ever seen pound for pound. He was not an extremely hard biter, but he could shut his mouth. He was very skilled at keeping his holds and sometimes it would appear that he was glued to his rivals head, he liked to fight the head. He was very strong and fast wrestler and would quickly get his hold and then use his body weight and muscle power to wear the opponent down while punishing him the whole time. He would move in such a way that the other dog would be carrying most of Bolio's weight with him. When the other dog would slow down from the head holds, Bolio would go into the throat. If a dog did happen to get Bolio off his head, Bolio would go toe to toe with him, but not for long. Bolio would work his way back to the head and again be in total control. He was the fastest, smartest, and most effective head dog that I have ever seen. He had natural air and I never saw him slow down. He was a very intense dog and he loved to fight. When in the corner he would scream with rage until he was released into the other dog. Occasionally, he would bite you if not released quick enough.

Bolio as a producer was the best stud dog that I know of that ever lived. He was bred to some poor cur bitches and produced excellent pit dogs from them. When he was bred to good bitches, those results were amazing.

Some friends of mine had a dispute with Bolio's owner and ended up taking the dog while he was at church. I had no part in the taking of Bolio from his owner's yard and do not know the details of the dispute between him and my friends. I don't use his name because the purpose of this article is to praise Bolio, not to put down his former owner. Bolio's former owner had stolen dogs from me and so I feel that I owed him nothing. When the people who took Bolio offered me breeding rights to the dog, I accepted immediately. Bolio remained on my yard until he died at the age of thirteen. He would sire litter after litter of good dogs and I would rate him as a better stud dog than my Tombstone dog, who was also a great stud in his own right. Bolio produced fine dogs from all his breedings, no matter what the bloodline was. His pups carried the same traits that made him such a great dog.

When I bred a daughter of Bolio's, Red Baby, to Tombstone, the result was thirteen very good dogs. Eight of these dogs won 20 matches. The other five was used as brood bitches. Champion Tonka, Champion Snubby, Champion Crash, and Creamator were some of the better known dogs I sold from this breeding.

One of the first bitches I bred to Bolio was Faith, a Clouse bitch. This breeding produced eight game and talented dogs, including Chen Leng and Champion Princess. Red Baby's mother was a sister to Offer's Crazy Babe, a pure Clouse bitch. Red Baby's litter was a bunch of great dogs.

I had a bitch named Tuffy that was heavy in Clouse blood. She was by Tater and Faith, and when I bred her to Bolio, I got some very good dogs including Bull Boy Bob ROM and Champion Dugan. Bolio worked well with good Tombstone and Clouse bitches. He also sired good ones to great dogs out of bitches from the bloodlines of Eli Jr. and Ironhead. This reminds me of a statement made by Ricky Jones. He said, "My favorite bloodlines are the Eli / Ironhead cross dogs that came from Maurice during the early and mid seventies. Percentage wise these dogs will get you to the pit more times than any other bloodline out there. There are a lot of good dogs from other bloodlines, but over all you will get more dog for your money and time from the Eli/Ironhead line." Ricky Jones can run any bloodline he wants and he has a right to his own opinion. I don't think any bloodline is so superior to the other top bloodlines that it wins every time. However, Ricky stated very clearly that his dogs will win more that any other, now how in the hell would he know this to be a fact, he never used anything except the Eli blood and did 99.9% of his winning in his own back yard! I say his opinion is weak and wrong! I owned and saw dogs of Bullyson, Eli Jr., and Ironhead when Ricky still had his hound dogs. I say the Bolio blood is superior and I sold my Bullyson-Eli Jr., dogs to make room for the Bolio blood that I breed. I talked with Carver on many occasions and he told me more than twice that the Bolio dogs are his best without a doubt. In the whole article he never spoke about two of the best dogs he owned, Chome and Chocolate Soldier. These two dogs won 4 matches for him and they were bred by Diamond Jim out of a Bolio bitch bred to the great Luther dog. The mother of Chome and Soldier was Patrick's Rose. I understand that Jones had a lot of wins to his credit, but the fact is that a puppy I sold as a pet beat Grand Champion Sandman even though Sandman outweighed him by 3 lbs. I am talking about Grand Champion Buck, a Bolio dog. If Ricky can make a statement that his dogs are the best, I can tell you that the people with Bolio dogs aren't losing any sleep over his "Honest Dogs." I would not trade one good Bolio dog for any of his dogs. I quess most serious dog men run the line of dogs they like the best.

Bolio's blood is by far the biggest part of my yard. Almost all my dogs have some Bolio blood in them and many are 60-70% Bolio blood. I don't think you get the best results by just inbreeding on one good dog. You need other good bloodlines to cross them with and to keep them strong. I am without a doubt the biggest Bolio fan in the world and i have been bragging about him for twenty years. Maurice Carver told me that "all the Bolio dogs will do for you is win. Lots of people don't like them after they win, but they get the job done!" Eddie Klaus and Maurice Carver deserve the credit for breeding Bolio and his great litter mates Mendicino, Andy Capp, Daisy, and Leggs Diamond. All I did was realize his potential as a stud dog. I am sure I would still have bulldogs if I had never heard of Bolio, but I know my yard is a better yard because of him.

If I could have any dog that lived in the past, today, as a two year old dog, I would take Bolio!

 

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