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how to choose the right pups from the litter

Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by bullyville, May 4, 2013.

  1. Rock n Rye

    Rock n Rye CH Dog

    Dogs will more often then not revert back to the average of the dogs that are behind them. If you breeding a bunch of no talent gameplugs more often than not that is what you will get. Yes every 200 dogs maybe you get a freak but back to average. If you want better dogs then breed better dogs. Far as picking a pup, if it's not my very own breeding which i keep all the pups so dont have to pick but from a friend, I either have my mom my lady or his lady pick out the pup. Something about a woman's touch, can't be explained. Not 1 pup my mom has picked has ever curred or been culled. In fact she picked the best dog I have ever owned. LOL so yup that is my good luck charm.
     
  2. If a fella is concern with "picking the right" pup. Id tell them forget that pup and buy yourself the right grown dog.
     
  3. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    Thats a much better option..... No waiting for it to grow up to find out after feeding it for 2 or more years it's a dud.
     
  4. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    lol thats awesome. I'd keep letting them pick from now on, maybe get them to pick out a breeding to do and see what happens... :)
     
  5. Lol...nice...ima have to try that one for myself
     
  6. ragedog10

    ragedog10 Top Dog

    I always let the kids or wife pick and name the pups. Every dog has two names maybe three their real name I gave them the one the kids call em and the one the wife gave em lol. long as the pup is healthy pick it no way of telling the future have to wait, now as for breeding average or low ability plugs you will get more of the same yes a freak may pop up at some point but you can bet your life savings that freak pup will produce what his\her line is known for average dogs. Yis Ole Man
     
  7. Rock n Rye

    Rock n Rye CH Dog

    Yup, I let them pick when I go to a buddy's house to pick up a pup. My luck hasnt been that good lol. No, my mom and old lady loves the color of them blue dogs. they dont like the shape of them or their laziness but far as that dolphin grey color both of them like it. Let them pick a breeding no telling what the hell would pop out lol. My breedings have been better success then my puppy choosing. I'm the guy who just takes either the one that comes to me or I just reach out and grab one. If it's healthy I'm good to go. I know the parents or dogs behind them 90% of the time because it's on a friends yard. When I do my own breedings, knowing the dogs behind them, i jot down everything I can about the litter. Color, when they start moving and walking, when they become dominant and everything up until they are about 3 months old.
     
  8. bounty

    bounty Big Dog

    Don't believe all this crap. You can pick out pups from litters. I have picked out many myself. And they have turned out way better than the litter mates. In fact they turned out to be amazing dogs. The simple fact is sometimes a pup will show you something that puts it way ahead of its litter mates. You just need to see it and be able to interpret it.

    I won't tell you how to do it, but it is definitely possible, you either know or you don't. What i will say is that you need to spend a lot of time with your litters observing them.

    and another thing, gameness is the LAST thing you will see....
     
  9. Kelticwarrior

    Kelticwarrior Top Dog

    A good rule of thumb to follow is to lift the pups up and look at their bellies. The fighters in the litter will usually have claw or scratch marks on their bellies from the other pups that they (the dominant pups) have been dominating.
     
  10. YoungLion

    YoungLion Big Dog

    As far as choosing the pup it depends on what traits someone is looking for in a bulldog. Some people choose by color, structure, and appearance while others look for hot acting rough prospects etc but only time will tell. It will be hard to tell too early so let them be a pup like they have said above.


    Whenever possible breed best to best and cull hard.But even if the best you can get your hands on are both Champions it will not guarantee the will produce above average dogs or reproduce dogs like themselves. The most calculating and scientific breeders are still gambling no matter how well they stack the deck. That being said the only reasons I would personally breed to a dog with average ability and gameness is if that dog was a proven producer or a producer of producers or was just the very best stock i had access to. like so many have said there is no short cut. So many get into the dogs thinking they can breed the papers and produce Aces but real good ones don't come by that often and you are fortunate to own a great one a lifetime. Some people say the only way to see if a dog can produce is to breed them which is a fact. There were some above average dogs that were breed many , many, times and became ROM just by the mere number of times offspring they produce but then you can have a dog luck up and become ROM from the first or second breeding.
     
  11. YoungLion

    YoungLion Big Dog


    Some of what you are talking about has to do with having a " good eye" for the dogs. Not everyone is so fortunate and even then you know that only time will tell whether or not you chose right. I have a pretty good eye if I do say so but I have been known to pick some duds too.lol
     
  12. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    I like to see the dominant pup in the litter. The one that comes to the fence/wire and pushed himself to the front to get all the attention. When they are not paying attention to me I like to toss a pan in the pen for the sudden noise effect. I like the pups that go right to it and check it out. I like the confidence and the going to a situation, vs. cowering and going away from the noise. That is what I like to do if I am picking a pup out of a litter, be it mine or one I was buying.
    In the working dog world there are similar testing and it significantly raises the percentages of choosing the right dog. The only factor in the equation that can't be factored in is the 'game' gene. That sort of throws a wrench in the factoring/choosing process for long term picks. S
     
  13. bounty

    bounty Big Dog

    that's a good way to pick a good guard dog. But confidence has nothing to do with hunting ability...
     
  14. bounty

    bounty Big Dog

    I'm talking about stand out pups. If the litter is pretty uniform its much harder to pick because gameness will be the deciding factor and that is the last thing you will see...

    I just wanted people to know that it is possible to pick out the best pup. All you have to do is look.
     
  15. ABD456

    ABD456 Big Dog

    I don't think I person can pick a pup and know it will be any more game than the rest of the litter. I think there are many traits that we can see or pick at puppy age. Best option pick parents that you like and pick which ever makes you happy.

    The last pup I got I wanted a male pup form the litter, I didn't pick one I said keep me a male and got the one that was left over. I did check on the pups weekly until about 4 weeks and was happy with what I saw so I didn't care which one I got.
     
  16. Sampson1

    Sampson1 CH Dog

    If all are conformationally sound and healthy I usually try to pick the pup or pups with the highest prey drive. Not because I think it makes them any better then the others, but it does make them easier to exercise.


    S1
     
  17. ursaminor

    ursaminor Top Dog

    Throw a piece of bone in the pen and see which one ends up with it.
     
  18. Pirbul

    Pirbul CH Dog

    I believe the more you've been breedings dogs the more info you have and the better decisions you'll do. I mean, if you are breeding the 4th generations and in the past you have experienced and lived every litter you will recognice some early traits that MIGHT BE important to pick pups.

    But the best decision is to keep the whole litter, spend time with them, let them mature and then pick the ones that make you proud of doing such litter and go from there.
     
  19. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Read the last two lines. S


     
  20. magnoilaotis

    magnoilaotis Top Dog

    First step towards picking the right pup is picking the right litter. The best pup in a litter of trash is still trash. After that just pick one. If you like the color of one pick it. If you like it's confidence, size, conformation, eye color or the way his poop smells pick it. My point is you never know. Had a litter and the ugliest, goofy pup turned out to be the best one. I couldn't give that bad made up mutt away. Now I wouldn't part with. He wasn't outgoing and was a bit shy. He kind of just sat back and watched the world spin. To see him now you would swear he had to have been the alpha of the brood pen and you would be wrong. There is no secret besides the first sentence of this post.
     

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