How close is to close?

I am just asking for opinions here in a year I am going to hook up half brother and sister. I am hoping that lightning will strike and I will get a litter full of dogs with the best traits of the two combined. Worse case scenario I think I will get dogs at least with their head screwed on straight. Do members think you can get top notch performers from half brother and half sister matings.

 

There have definitely been tighter breedings. How tight is the ped behind these dogs already? If you go too tight, you could actually be degrading the line but if you know why you want to do this pairing then go for it.

My opinion is that its fine, you may get a litter full of fire and you may get duds. All you can do is roll the dice and hope for the best.

 

That is not to close of a breeding, and as far the the dogs go never know its just like any other breeding anything can happen

 

I have a dog from a full brother sister breeding, one from a son to mother breeding and getting ready to do this breeding
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=340176

A half brother to half sister is not too tight at all. You can get great dogs off of tight breedings, but you also usually get one or two dogs that get the short end of the gene stick. Just how it works out.

 

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=7213

He went on to produce a ROM, POR, and several that were extremely game, and don't even get me started on the Bass Tramp Redboy line- That's about as inbred and game as they come.

 

WOW- 50% on the super game zip, and I heard Wargame (Bomber) was quite the little monster. Looks like a killer breeding!

 

i have 2 pups off a full brother sister breeding the two are pups off WILDSIDES WILLIE P.O.R. X ELLA A TRIPLE BRED CH REDDOG BITCH AN ITS LOOKING GOOD

 

http://claddaghkennels.webs.com/meade_s_rowdy.htm X http://claddaghkennels.webs.com/meade_s_loca_lefty.htm

 

Thanks for the opinions. Both dogs sire is loosely linebred redboy. One dam is an Eli/ alligator cross and the other is a redboy/ carver cross. The gene pool is pretty deep. Doubling up on the sire cause he has produced a fair share solid dogs.

 

Buddy of mine has one from this litter and he is a good one to say the least
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=140393

 

im told those belly to belly bro & sister breedings alot of times dont produce ..???? can u over inbreed ? in my opinion YES , u loose all the good stuff the reason the inbreeding was done in the first place ...only way to tell is test the dogs !!!!!! & dont breed unless their worlthy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i dont give a shit what bloodline their from !! u have all these idiots thinking EVERY PUPPY dropped on the ground is the next great GR CHampion !!!! i seen some scaterbreed basicly unknow dogs tear the fuck outa some big name hogs !!!! sadly none of it was official !!!!!

 

I do however agree with jeepfreak that in-breeding can be over done. The only time a dog should be inbred, is if the dog is a solid game dog. (the only duplications should be the good ones) Too many times it has been done more for convenience. Scatterbred dogs work just as well. The thing to remember inbreeding and outcrossing are just different tools for your desired effect. To me- it's more important to use ROMs and Champions from current fast lane stock in your breeding program (the closer the better)- It just puts the odds in your favor.

 

lol i just got the last pup off that breeding talk to tg a day before christmas

 

I like the looks of that "Willie" breeding. Here is a great example of line- breeding done by Dramacide kennels.

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=324135