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Hit or don't hit ?

Discussion in 'Training & Behavior' started by Cassa01, Feb 20, 2010.

  1. Cassa01

    Cassa01 Big Dog

    Should u hit ur dog? I'm not sayin hurt hit just like smak on the nose n shit jst to tell it off .. Or when he barks spray him with a water gun haha .. I dnt see a proble some people say a dog will turn if u tell it off n not tell him off if he does bad things .. But I think a little bit of tht isn't a proble what do u guys think .. And I don't hit him .. Just smak on nose
     
  2. Blau

    Blau Big Dog

    The water gun thing is a joke, I don't know of any self respecting trainer that would recommend it for a dog with a serious barking problem. I prefer checks with a prong/choker. Obviously not so hard that you constrict the dog's wind pipe, but hard enough that the dog knows that he's been corrected.
     
  3. Michele

    Michele Premium Member Premium Member

    I would give a shake of the scruff or a smack on the butt, but would not hit the dog in the face or nose. :)
     
  4. Laced Wit Game

    Laced Wit Game Yard Boy

    i agree!

    a lot of folks say "positive reinforcement, never hit your dog!" which may work great for labs & poodles!!

    but i firmly believe that "bully" breeds in general need a firm hand and need to know theyre place as far as dominance goes!
     
  5. Corley

    Corley Big Dog

    If you got to ask this question you don't need a dog.
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  6. Laced Wit Game

    Laced Wit Game Yard Boy

    lol good luck with the water gun idea lol
     
  7. Cassa01

    Cassa01 Big Dog

    Haha the water gun works he runs into his kennle n shhh's haha n he he hardly barks just when he sometimes does .. And I herd u shouldn't hit them on the bum or backlegs cuz it's bad for them? And on there nose is sensitive so they listin so it's okay mm
     
  8. wardogkennels

    wardogkennels CH Dog

    I don't hit any of my dogs and they listen to me fine.
     
  9. Michele

    Michele Premium Member Premium Member

    I'm not saying hit the dog hard on the butt. Just a tap and a stern NO. And in my opinion, hitting a dog, any breed, on the nose or in the face area can make them hand shy.
     
  10. shadowwolf

    shadowwolf Big Dog

    If I can't get attention from the dog in question, I'll tap their backside until they're focused but to actually hit my dogs? No. The "scary mom voice" (you know the one your folks used when you were in deep - yeah, that one) works really well at letting them know they're close to pushing the envelope.
     
  11. Nell_Bell

    Nell_Bell Premium Member Premium Member

    It is hard work, but whenever you give a command, MAKE the dog do it. Don't hit him unless it is a tap to get their attention. I will also occassionally use the side of my foot to give her a sharp tap to her chest when she is refusing to heel. This means if you are telling a dog to come and he ignores you, tell him NO! and then go to him and make him come to where you want him (this is why I tend not to call my dog from 50 yards away LOL!). Never give a command you aren't willing to see through, otherwise they learn they can ignore you.

    Best way to end barking, IMO, is to only give attention when he is calm and quite and you may need to cover his crate with a sheet and only remove it when he is quiet. My dog used to get real excited when I came to her crate so as soon as she started pawing and barking, I would stop and turn my back to her. When she was calm, I would turn around and slowly continue and repeat the action whenever she started to act up. She quickly learned not to act like an idiot.
     
  12. Vicki

    Vicki Administrator Staff Member

    There are more positive ways to get your dogs attention that are more effective and better for your relationship between you and your dog.

    Hitting and grabbing your dog by the scuff of the neck is definitely a form of negative reinforcement that could lead to more behavioral issues down the road.
     
  13. Old Timer

    Old Timer CH Dog

    The only time I swat a dog on the hind end or get them by the scruff is when I need to show the dog who is boss, That is about the only time I recommend folks to do it as well.
     
  14. Ragingstorm

    Ragingstorm Big Dog

    I agree, I personally would never hit my dogs on their face or head, I hate it when a dog is hand shy. A shake from the scruff of their neck and a telling off is normally enough.......I think they feel worse if they think theyve upset you than they would with any physical kind of discipline.
     
  15. Old Timer

    Old Timer CH Dog

    Well you know I got to thinking and I think I need to clarify what I mean by when I show them who is boss. This isn't for just because the dog has a accident in the house or things of that nature, I am meaning if the dog knows better but shows open defiance or if the dog challenges you by trying to guard the food or take over the couch or something along those lines. All pups will test the waters just like all teenagers will and there are times when they need a smack on the hind end to get their attention and make it click that they don't want to do that anymore.

    But the last thing you want to do is over use that and end up ruining the dog, You can't just go and do that for just anything and everything or you will wind up with one of two things. A cowed dog that is miserable and will take a lot of work to bring around or you will wind up with a dog that will out and out fight you and you will end up having to put the dog down. It is a training tool and like most other training tools it is not to be over used and things of that nature. Only use it when needed and never over do it, Use just enough to correct the dog.
     
  16. dogman82

    dogman82 Pup

    I had a male that i used the ol rolled up news paper on... it just hurts their feelings more then it does physically...had him house broken in a week.. and he never gave me any problems when he got older...
     
  17. Cassa01

    Cassa01 Big Dog

    Thanks guys for the positive information :) he doesn't bark all the time hardly Eva he just does he the next doors dog barks all bight he runs out to the fence and I think tryin to tell it to shut it's mouth haha his only 9 months n my femail 3 months And both sit and shake n when I get water gun out the play dead roll on the back n put legs in the air hahah both arnt in a cage or chained up the both run freely around so that's the only time they bark is whenn the run to the back fence and I'm not ganna chain them up to stop a lil barkin lol this might be a dumb qustion bu owell . Um when I set up the jump toy thing forget what it's called with the rope lol well whenn he jumps up sometimes he lands bad on his side and rolls over should I lower the toy or not let him do it or will he just learn not to jump like a retard ? Haha x
     
  18. 1) You shouldn't have your pup working a springpole heavily before his growth plates close

    2) It shouldn't be so high that he is leaping off the ground for it. 2 back feet on the ground is the rule of thumb.
     
  19. If my dog breaks the rules I make him submit (lay on his back) and if he was really bad I give him a loud but not hurtful slap on the gutt.
     
  20. Cassa01

    Cassa01 Big Dog

    Yeh good idea um personly if I were to tell my dog off I'd smak on on the nose or on the like sholder area for me saying this might sound like my dogs are dumb and don't listin but they are the best dogs they hardly Eva stuff up only when sometimes the smaller pup jumps up and takes the washin off the line :( haha n when I pick up the cloths she runs into her kennel haha anyways thanks everyone for good and helpful feedback :)
     

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