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Heinzl Dogs

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by firemanseth3, Sep 13, 2014.

  1. gillagan

    gillagan Big Dog

    Sorry palo was dogging , well unlike u I'm around real dog men every day, until u can prove what I say was a lie I don't have time to play u kid ass games
     
  2. gillagan

    gillagan Big Dog

    Like I said before put up or shut up.. Prove u are a Man U come see me! Send one of ur "dog friends" to come see me and let's see what's what.

    I let dogs talk dog talk and I have a yard full of cur I just need u to come show them that's what they are.
    I'll be her u know how to get intouch with me, we will record it and if u want I will kindly beat the brakes off u when it's all said and done.
    We can make the world and the dog game a lot better with out fake men in it, men that think they know and don't know shit!!!
    You say the alligator dogs peds are fake cool prove it!
    Show me one real hand written ped on one u have.
    And not an online ped anyone can post them up.
    U look under them dogs names and u will see a number of fake peds shine posted ... Just to see how it would turn out..
    So let's call him a lie.. Shit the Man U talk so highly of sent batt. A 1/2 lab dog.. That should tell you how good of a man he is and u trust him because he will tell u what you want to hear.
    So with that said when u become a man get at me and show me ur understanding of gamedogs. Until them u are nothing but a loud mouth that never done shit.

    And as for what u say about Mau Mau , have him come on and say that I'm a lie , that I didn't own Cleo and bred her to make miss bender and he beg to breed to them!
    Do u know why, because they are being used unlike the shit he is trying to pop off for 300$ u and him are two peas in a pod.. $$$$$ is all u see.
    Wake up fool
     
  3. Shane73

    Shane73 Pup

    ^ lol., I remember them getting a lab stuck to one of those Alli bidges..
    One thing is for sure you can be whoever you want online....
     
  4. cik

    cik Big Dog

    OK cory grant , fisrt off its not me that has to prove your dogs are not fake its you,
    You know their fake and so do I and others also, you have been proved to be a lair
    And a cheat, and you have changed your stories everytime you get called out on a fake
    Ped its laughable.
    <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p> </o:p>
    You claimed on the old Mayfield thread or an associated thread that has now been
    Deleted (but the archives are still on the forum server so don*t think you can deny
    What you said now lol)many lies, inlcudling then dogs you claimed you not only had ,
    Down from your old granpapy ,but that you had dogs form them and had even shown offspring formthsoe dogs, then when myself and others questioned you about it, knowing
    That it was all lies , you changed your story and backtracked cos you couldn*t prove it, all you did to try and porve that you or your grandpapy had them dogs was show a pic of a handwrttien ped ,which was so small we couldn*t see what was written on it, and in any case that didn*t prove a thing, as I have many lettrs and peds sent to me from dogmen ,but that
    Doesn*t mean I have them dogs or can claim I had them, all it is correspondence in most cases , apart from my correspondence with Mayfield which was aobut the dogs I had from his line , so if you had thpose dogs in your family for 40plus years, im damn sure
    You can show a long timeline with real proof not one handwritten ped which menas nothing .



    <o:p> </o:p>
    You also claimed this dog ,out of popeye and lock , and again when asked if you had the male you put a ped on , you said yes, then I called you out and told you I had asked tina daves ex who had both dogs, and she confirmed they had never been bred and that you*re a damn lair.Then surprise surprise when you realsaied I ahd actually talked to tina , cos Charlie gace me her number not you, (I wonder why lol) you knew the game was up , and guess what , yes you changed your story once again, and said Charlie asked you to post up
    The ped , which is a lie ,he never asked you to post up the ped, and if he had asked you to psot up a ped you idiot don*t you think he would have asked you to post it up under his kennel name D&C not your E U eugencis council name lol and he certainly wouldn*t have named an as yet unborn dog from a breeding that he didn*t know was even or ever going to take place ,but you named the dog also , ,and you named him because you were trying to pass the dog off as real when he had never been born , so when you try to lie make sure you have your ass covered because as judge judy always says, IF IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE ITS A LIE ,and in your case cory grantshes absoultly correct .

    below fake ped
    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=426187


    As for nigerinathat again is a lie as Pandora only ever had one pup called demonica out of bolt, she never had pups from nigerino when bred to him and you for damn sure never bred Pandora when you had her at 9 yrears old to nigerino as he was long dead by then ,so those fake peds down from Pandora to nigerino you now claim are fake .
    <o:p> </o:p>
    Also you made a comment that you had or might have pups from spookie, well again you change your story to suit you, but all you do is show what a lair you are, you told everyone not just me that both spookie and Pandora died , and you never got them bred,

    belwo fake ped for nigerina doesnt exist

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=484707

    and now you claim Pandora had pups from nigerino lol and spookie was bred also lol, well ok cory confirm that you doindeed have dogs from Pandora to nigerino,and pups out of spookie and then we can take it from there , and don*t think a pic from dave
    Breeding Pandora years ago which never took is proof of anything, you know how we can prove it with live dogs today , just confirm that lie for the forum one more time then
    well see how keen you are to porve how truthfull you are lol.
    <o:p> </o:p>
    Now you can talk big and tough about how you will beat the brtakes off me , well even if you could (I doub that very much , as any guts you may have ever had if you ever indeed had any guts, was probably f u c k e d out of you while you were in prison )but it wouldn*t make your peds any truer their still fake cory grant just like you .
    <o:p> </o:p>
    By the way thank you for mentioning me in the same breath as mau mau , i am very honoured that you think that about me, its just a shame you yourself will never have anyone think so highly of you that they would ever name you alongside a top dogman like mau mau,
    And as for myself I can only hope and dream to ever reach the level that mau mau has in the game, but you cory grant will only ever be named alongside the scumbags and cheats and liars in the game andin life, because cory grant that*s what you are a lowlife

     
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  5. BLUE8BULL

    BLUE8BULL CH Dog

    just like ya did behind the skips in the super-market....raceing the agaiest the rotty's and dobbys....key.....lol.....
     
  6. keystone

    keystone CH Dog

    a truck load ful of the chain lol
     
  7. gillagan

    gillagan Big Dog

    Palo u like I said are a fool.

    If I wanted to fake a ped trust me it would not be in a family of dogs that are not doing anything but being fed.

    Look at my dog drip drop, look at the dogs that were bred to him and tell me why in the fuck would I need to fake a ped on the shit u came me to fake.
    U say I wanted ur dogs .. Come on.. If I did I can get them 700$ and I can have one. Shit key has 3 for sale now .. Come on man !! Mau Mau ... I can get online and get a dog from him for 300$ off his web site!!!! Come on man!!! You need to stop..
    Like I have said. Come see me, and i can show you my word better than I can tell u.
    Yours in sport.
     
  8. cik

    cik Big Dog

    Nice try cory grant the ped faker and fantasist , once again you ffice:office" /><O:p></O:p>
    Avoid trying ot answer thequestions and try to talk about another<O:p></O:p>
    Dog drip drop , who I have never mentioned anything about ,so lets<O:p></O:p>
    Try sticking to the subject at hand shall we .<O:p></O:p>
    <O:p></O:p>
    You say that why would you need to fake peds from any dogs, well<O:p></O:p>
    Why the hell do you fake them then? You faked the dog you claimed<O:p></O:p>
    Charlie told you to post, but that*s a lie, Charlie never asked you to post<O:p></O:p>
    A ped for a dog that had never yet been bred and even less to name him<O:p></O:p>
    ,and the ped was psoted under your kennel name eu eugenics council like all<O:p></O:p>
    the other dogs you claim you have , so why would he ask you to do that ?<O:p></O:p>
    of course he didn*t you tried to claim you actually had the dog , you were asked in a deleted thread (which I hope the admin will be able to find along<O:p></O:p>
    with your other claims apobut the heinzl dogs before you backtracked when found out ) if you had the dog you posted , and you said yes you had the dog , then after you were told that you are a lair ,as that breeding never took<O:p></O:p>
    place , you backtracked as you always do , and made up this riddculous story<O:p></O:p>
    that not even a child would believe its so riddculous , even without the deleted thread evidence .Below is the fake ped you now claim Charlie asked<O:p></O:p>
    you to post once you were found out and backtracked and like the gutless wonder you are you try to throw another man under the bus , well bad luck scumbag didn*t quite work out for you did it .

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=426187

    <O:p> You also claim to have a female called nigerian bred from popeye to Pandora, which is a lie, yes she was bred to him years ago and never hasd pups , or are you going to claim she did have ? the only pup Pandora ever had was out of bolt and shes called demonica , you show me a foto like you claim of you breeding Pandora after you got her to nigerino , not one with dave from years ago , but you cant because nigerino died a long time before you ever got in 2011 , so nigerina is fake as are any so called offspring you also ped faked .<O:p></O:p>
    <O:p> </O:p>
    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=484707

    You also made a comment that maybe you did get pups from spookie ,even though you told everyone that both Pandora and spookie who were 8 and 9 years old when you got them had both died ,and you never did get any pups form them .<O:p></O:p>
    Well if you claim you have got pups well like I said theres one sure way to prove if you have pups out of spookie and Pandora , but im sure that you will find a whole list of reason as to why you cant do that one simple thing<O:p></O:p>
    To prove who those dogs you claim to have are actually out of ,cos you know you cant cos their fake.<O:p></O:p>


    As for you never wanting anything from me or us ,well another lie, you asked me for semen from brutus and for any pups from the pure ones ,you also asked key not long ago if he had any for you ,so like I said the asking for anything was always a one way street with you coming down it our way.<O:p></O:p>
    <O:p> </O:p>
    Corygrant you have no backbone you*re a scumbag and a weasel of a human<O:p></O:p>
    If you had any moral fiber or deceny you would admit what everyone already knows about you, but your not a man you*re a pos who thinks <O:p></O:p>
    That if he keeps denying what is so obviuously the truth about you , that people will<O:p></O:p>
    Believe you , when if you had any sense you would realize that every time you post trying to deny things like the ped from the dog you backtracked and <O:p></O:p>
    Claimed Charlie asked you to post, it just makes you look even more of a lair than you already are , because it is so illogical that even the local village<O:p></O:p>
    Idiot wont buy the story ,and that*s just one of many of your lies regarding peds you faked , and yes if you come out and admit you have been lying <O:p></O:p>
    Your gonna feel stupid I know but guess what we all already know you*re a lair about these peds , so actually admitting it might give you some redemptionin this mess you created for yourself, with men like mau mau and others who you have disrespected on this forum , but knowing you ,you will reply to this post with the usuall denying or deflecting tactics on your ped faking , which just makes my case for me <O:p></O:p>
    and makes you look even more of a lair ,if that*s even possible lol,<O:p></O:p>
    But take one piece of advice cory grant the ped faker, don*t try to be someone lese , don*t claim to be\<O:p></O:p>
    another man like you did when you pretended to be your cousin with a man via text , I know you don*t have much to be proud of in yourself and<O:p></O:p>
    that*s probably why you try to make out your someone else cos as yourself<O:p></O:p>
    you feel inadequate as a man, but you made that bed cory grant ,so now you have to sleep in it ,as drity and smelly as that bed is ,its all yours .<O:p></O:p>
    <O:p> </O:p>
    By the way this is just the tip of the iceberg for you cory grant the ped faker , theres still about 50 plus fake peds of yours that are going to get the same treatment , but like i said you made that bed ,so you get nice and comfy on it whiule it burns ,with you on it.</O:p>
     
  9. gillagan

    gillagan Big Dog

    I guess u feel calling a person a name makes u tuff.. Lol I see men like u all the time and I see dogs like that all the time all bark. Eugenics council is a group of men fool I don't post peds because I don't care I know what I have and I don't let it out so. No need to prove anything unless u have some $$$ to see!
    Let let the dogs talk , u came to have the best like every man dose.
    I have a yard of curr mutts I just need u to prove that.
    U and anyone can say my dogs are bred any way u feel fit. But none of u will take the challenge. Line all of u mayfield breeders u talk but don't bite.
    Yours in sport
     
  10. gillagan

    gillagan Big Dog

    Oh palo .. Have u ever seen any of the dogs u flame I'm a lie about. Not in pic , I mean hands on?
    The answer to that is NO. So u only know what u have been told!
     
  11. cik

    cik Big Dog

    CORY grant the ped faker and scumbag ,you claimed you had them dogs which is a lie you never had the dog you origianlly claimed you had then tried to throw charlie under the bus and chage your story, and now your backtraking on nigerina, which you say you only took a mans word on how she was bred that way , well that would be dave correct ? and then you say she didnt work out but at the same time you show offspring bred from her , so i suggest you get your lies in place before digging and even bigger hole for yourself , if thats even possilble , the only thing you do have are pics of dogs, ,other peoples dogs, whatever you have if any of your own are certianlrey not bred like you show them to be , at best you may still have some of old rods dogs ,but as for the other aligator blood you claimed amonsgt other blood like the hienzl blood, thats all in your imagination, and everytime you are asked to prove it you backtrack and say there no longer around , handy that isnt it, i wonder if the offspring to nigerina are dead also lol that would be convient for you also ,,becasue your a ped faking scumbag and im gald you keep trying to wriggle out of your lies on this froum cos evrytime you psot in reply to the facts all you do is show folks ,who luckly for them have yet to know you and deal with you , what a ped faking scumbag you are.
    Cory do you think that the folks reading your replys trying to deny what you said then going back on it as usuall and making up new stories for yuor lies, actually need you to admit your a liar before they will think you are a lair? do you actually think that untill you admit it then folks wont know if you are A PEDFAKING LAIR or not ? cos if you think that me and everyone else doesnt think your a lying ped faKer then your more deluded than i ever imagined and you need help with your mental health , cos believe this cory grant EVERYONE KNOWS YOUR A PED FAKER regardless of if you admiot it or not the fatcs speak for themselves and when you speak it makes them facts ven more obvious than the fake peds you post up .
     
  12. ragedog10

    ragedog10 Top Dog

    If he's a liar paper hanger ect.(Gillagan) like you say Cik then what proof do you have besides peds online? If you have proof then put it out there and be done with it. Calling names and all this other bullshit is ridiculous prove what you are saying and don't mean with here say but with COLD HARD FACTS....And for the record I don't care either way.
     
  13. cik

    cik Big Dog

    ragedog i have put out the facts , cory grant has claimed dpogs that necver existed and has said so on this forum , i have asked him to expalin these thigns as we know him from befroe when all he had were a few kersnher mutts , and if you tihnk hes not a ped faker jsut aks him the same questions we aks him , hell just look at his replys every time hes shown to be a lair, he changes his story and trys to throw others under the bus, so rage i know his peds are fsake he knows his peds are fake and if you need me to prove it for you well i think i have and he has also with his answers , ,do yourself a faour read this thread and see what his answers are to the questions , if i was beoing called out like he is, i would damn well show i wasnt a ped faekr and a iar with proff , but he cant all he does is deny it and even denys those peds are his when all you have to dpo is look back at his peost that are still on this forum, i hope admin will put up his old psots from deleted threads were he claimed he had dogs which when called out on he then denied he said or jsut said he was told that by another man lol , hes a joke , and know hes even saying hes not eugenics council , which is whatb he psoted a epd up that he himself said charlie asked him to psot ,which is a lie, coscharlie went by the name D&C NOT EU and thats jsut one of about 50 peds this scumbag has up faked on pedsonline, so rage i know you dont know him and i suggest it styas that wya for your own good , but if you want to know what a turd this guy is , deal with him then you will realise whayt a pos he is , so like i said i have called him out and he cant porve anytihng is true, buyt we know its not so thtas why he cant, jsut like the female he climes he had called nigerina , thats a lie, never existed when hes calleed out on it he back trakcsd saying he took a mans word for it and anyway now shes dead , but at the same time if she was no good and got rid of lol why does he have peds up of offspring if she was no good and got rid off ?, do you see rage what a lair this pos is, so if you want proof there is just one example of many , along with this pos own words in his replys, if he was telling the truth he would be albe to prove me wrong wouldnt he but he cant , he lied on all the things i said on here and many many more , and now hes reduced to putting the blame on others for his lies to try and wriigle out of it as best he can,but i will ask admin to please show gillgans posts from closed threads were he said he had dogs then changes his story every time he realises he bs dont wash, so rage do yourself a favour look the psots and see what this honest man cory grant the ped faker says lol hell even the local village idoit wouldnt belive what this guy says .
    by the way rage if a man puts up fake peds on pedsonline as this guy does that right there is proof if there fake, so that along with everytihng esle we know about him and his own words that chnge evry time hes caught in a lie proves him to be a ped faking lair ,if i was asing you the same question how would you prove me wrong rage ? im sure you would be albe ot stand behind what you psot up online if yuor stand up guy right ? you owuld be albe to show some proof a timeline etc for what you claim, but you see rage the dogs he
    cant, all he does is psot a pic of a dog or a ped which you can ahrdly see whats written on it, assome kniod of proof baout other dogs he claimed , but jsut on these tow dogs becasue i have only scratched the surfece of his ped faking , but on just the two i mentioned in the posts rage ,he tried to chage hsi story when confroanted with his lies and with one he trys to blame charlie ,on the other nigerina he now says that he took another mans word for how she was bred lol butthats not what he origianl said when he psoed her up on this forum, and even trys to distance himself from the eu peds but hes the one who psoted them on this forum, so if there not from him why is he psoting them,lol you see hes a pos and if you feel strongly enough to say something to me rage, maybe before defending this pos who you dont know from a hole in the ground , i suggest you scratch the surface also , you wont have to dig very far to unearht this pos lies , take care rage, and whatever our differances have been about other subjects, i think all folks invloed with the breed shoiuld always do what they can to shine a light on ped faking scumbags like cory grant ,that is unless there ped fakers also .

    this dog he claimed he had on the deleted thread ,but the dog never existed, then when he knew i found out that the owner had told me that breeding never happend and i called himout on it, he chaged hsi stroy which he says on this htread , that charlie told him to put up this ped sas it was a breeding that might happen , but you see eventhoug chalrie never asked him to do that, lets for the benefit of the topic say he did ok, well whyb would chalrie ask hm to post up a ped under corys grants peds name eu eugenics council and not his which was D&C ? THEN NOT ONLY DO THAT BUT ASK HIM TO NAME A DOG WHICH HAS YET OT BE BORN? well rage the resasonis cos cory grant put that ped up for himself not chalrie and tried to pass it off as his dog ,and only after knwoing hed been caught in a lie does he do what is second nature to him, and thats throw others under the bus, but i think tis one example along with whqt he said he the deleted thread that he did have the dog , porves hes a lair.

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=426187

    this female he cliemd he had which is a lie as pandora only ever had one pup called demonica, when croy grant got pandora at 9 yrs old, he never got anything out of her, and for damn sure he never bred her to nigerino himslef as nigerino was dead long before he got her, and now thts hes benncalled out onthat lie, guess what he does, he says OH WELL I JSUT TOOK ANOTHER MANS WORDS FOR HER BREEDING LOL ,AND ANYHOW SHE DIDNT WORK OUT AND WE GOT RID OF HER, but he even shows offspring of her , lol , but neihter nigerina or any offspring form her existed and he cant prove he or they did ,theonly time pandora was bred to nigerino many many years ago she nbever took and infact was a problem female in that respect, and only ever had one pup as i said , os when this pos starts psoting up these fake peds , thats was hsi downfall period ,but rage i think these few examples of the many i cpould and have talked abotu in this and the old deleted threads ewre he first made these ped faking claims i think show what a lair he is and i think if it was me i would want to prove me wrong but he cant cos they never existed , period ,
    check this fake ped otu see how this female who never existed , but he claims he had , but was got rid of cos she didnt work out had pups lol , he sure does like to p[ost up soem riddculous peds , hell im sure hell psot one up with pups direct off tudors dibo from frozen semen his family got form dibo in the early days of frozen semen storage , lol i can see it now lol .
    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=484707
     
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  14. olddog

    olddog Big Dog

    Sorry you post turned into a P!ssing match. Sometimes peoples own agendas get in the way of giving someone good information. A lot of this who did what name calling should have been made on a separate post or taken private instead of screwing up your original question. I personally don't know where you could get some pure or close to it Heinzl blood - but you will find that most of the original old school blood lines have been watered down with someones attempt to "better" the line or have been bred to untested stock. Somewhere out there is some good fairly pure stock w/ only an occasional cross to keep the blood honest, but most of this is kept private and not for general use by the public. Good luck on finding someone who will let you in on this. Oldtimers pedigrees might not have told the whole truth ... but their dogs did!
    That's the difference between then and now - paper is just paper, but the dogs should be tried and true !!!

    Olddog
     
  15. keystone

    keystone CH Dog

    A lot of this who did what name calling should have been made on a separate post or taken private instead of screwing up your original question.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    old dog i don't care about this topic ...but......
    but going private ....many things ......you wanne let the world know ..thats why you write on board's .
    board's are for the next generation .
    calling eachother name's no good ....writing in caploc when it hot no good stay kalma if posible ...
     
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  16. mccoypitbulls

    mccoypitbulls Underdog

    Good post oldog. The blood is out there.but the folks I know are private treaty.sorry op.
     
  17. mccoypitbulls

    mccoypitbulls Underdog

    And its bred like the one atexan posted..
     
  18. gillagan

    gillagan Big Dog

    this is what i say!
     
  19. cik

    cik Big Dog

    cory grant the ped faker you would agree with that cos you cant prove me wrong , its upto you to porove me wrong not the other way around, i said many tihngs as to why i know abnd beleive you are faking peds ,and you cant answer any of them , and you have about 50 plus on pedsonline if you have trouble with the 2 i posted then that says it all,and i say it again your a lying pos scumbag ped faker who cant prove otherwise , i think the two examples in my previous posts about your ped faking show it ,that even a complete moron can see it a mile away , so as i said dont think that anyone is waitng for you to admit it before they know your a ped faker , they already know it even without ever having dealt with you or known what you had to start with , but then again you really are a moron and actually i would say your insane you obviously have mental issues if you think anyone is believing your peds ,and they only need to read your previous posts to see who you are and see you backtrack and if admin will post your old posts from the deleted threads where you claimed to own that dog you claimed charlie asked you to post, and the hienzl blood you claimed and other stories of yours then changed your tune and told a different story cos you knew you couldnt back it up and backtracked as usual , then everyone on here can see who you are cory grant ,they wont need to take my word for it , they can look at your own words and then compare them to what your now saying , and then lets see .
     
  20. Mr.Revolution

    Mr.Revolution CH Dog

    Actually Cik if u accuse someone of something the burden is on you to prove your accusations.
     

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