heart rate during maximum stress

I base their entire conditioning process off of their heart rate. The excersises will vary depending on the dog. I will check their heart rate before and after each excersise.

 

Good post Ben. That is why I check it so much. I compare the heart to an engine in a car. The rpm's is compared to how many beats per minute. The lower the rpm's, the more gas you save. The higher the rpm's the more gas you burn. So if my heart beat is very high then I am burning up to much energy. My hound isn't going to make the long haul. If his heart rate is low then he won't need a rest for awhile. If the competition has to recover before me then I am going to eat their ass up!

 

see i personally disaggree with this, and i consider myself to be pretty versed on fight conditionining... when i train for a tournament, i get myself to where i can roll(spar for you non bjj guys) for 35-45 minutes straight... while im doing this i dont check my heart rate,(and ive trained with many of the best fighters in the world and NONE have ever) in a fight its all about performance and recovery to perform, when im working i can feel how hard i need and can work, when im working a hound i try to read his body signals....what if you were working your dog and he is having an off day are you still going to push him to maximum stress, then you have a hurt hound, and you know what that means Frft.... i work hard to gain position when my hear rate is low, when it gets high i start slowing the work down and try to maintain position.... i can out work almost any 220 pound man, and im a chubby young buck...
I try to apply similar principles when working a dog, i aagree if your serious it is a good idea to monitor track and monitor how long it takes your dog to recover and how many bpm you can lower their heart rate during breaks...and work off your hounds heart rate, but in my opinion it is not the most important thing and definately not the only thing to consider while working your dog.

 

question benthere and wardog(or anyone else well versed in conditioning) how do you feel about massage during breaks/handles... there are two school of thoughts either A. do it because it helps muscle recovery and helps work out lactic acid build up
or B. dont do it because there muscles are tense and you could cause them pain and or cause them to cramp.
i personally lean towards A, but some good conditioners have argued both sides.

 

Condtitioning a human is alot different then a dog. I learned this lesson a long time ago. Dogs and humans bodys are very different. As far as hear rate for training a human fighter. You definitely need to train maximum stress for that also. You fight 3 x 5 minute rounds. You get a minute rest. The guy that's heart rate can recover faster in a minute will be in better shape.

 

When training your self its easy to know how your own body feels but when training or conditioning someone else especially a dog that cant talk you wont be able to tell exactly how the dog feels or where his conditioning level stands thats why knowing a dogs heart rate especially for a less experienced dog man is important as overworking a dog is a very easy thing to do. Of course its not the only way as some top conditioners can put one in top shape without even taking a dogs heart rate at all but that method usually comes from years of experience and that certain eye too see and know when a dog has had enough or not enough in his conditioning regimen.

 

I see your from Indiana. What Team and who do you train with? Are you ranked in BJJ?

 

I am loving this thread. Please don't take it to the octagon.

 

target heart rate is very important for humans in training, if you get yourself in good condition you are probably reaching it without realizing it. It is VERY important in athletics. Our trainers massaged us but it can cause injury to overworked muscles. So i would assume for a dog the key is not to overwork the dog

 

to avoid overworkin you have to know how to check the dogs vitals, kinda like a doc askin what are the vitals?this means what state is the patient in. my dogs would run themselves to death on a mill, so thats not doin them any good,take greyhounds, handlers dont just feed well and handwalk, they supplement their asses off, same as with racehorses, just as one keep wont work for all dogs, and any one line isnt better than the next.so, say you do a cbc complete blood count, and your numbers are off, you supplement iron(dmg 5000), now im not talkin supplementing for building muscle, im talking conditioning the blood, when blood is conditioned its red cells and hemoglobin are correct, hemo is the bubbles around the red cell that take in oxygen and deliver to the lungs muscles and mind.so you want to enhance this,when blood is conditioned it means blood is thicker and when your dog takes a wound hunting hogs it will clot easier.ferrous fummarate is scientifacally proven to increase oxygen intake and content+ more juice,its actually designed for gas in people sulfate isnt easily digested so at the vitamin sections u see it associated with gasx etc, and iron is associated with ironsulfate, jus like cornflakes has contents of fumarate, thats why its chosen over rice...dmg also is associated with enhancing the immunity stamina and detox, its produced naturally but enhancable, amino acids help to regulate the heart and lactic acid(the purpose of a rubdown)and nourishes the muscular system, so the main purpose of blood is to deliver oxygen, u can enhance to ensure cool down and recovery when the hog wears down you are enhanced

 

so iron is key, ever noticed how well a dog conditions on evo? mix a cup of water in a scoop and smell it, iron and blood, its liver based, not a miracle wonder food, look at old dogmen they didnt have rf1 or nupro etc., they knew this, this is old info

 

ive told u like 4 times homie lol....im a high level blue belt, i can roll between intermediate to advanced no gi... look on ur page messages(whatever they called not pm) i beleive i said there who i train with. ive also trained at just about every top camp in the midwest, and went to brazil to train and trained for a month with gordo, and the gracie barra combat team... pe de pano and jake shield marcio pe de pano cruz,delson heleno gustavo machado Roger gracies sis ect ect
I am a verry technical big figher (how many 230 lb plus guys can do gogoplatas flying armbars and is equally good off there back, i also have an insanely advanced half guard.my best move is an omoplata sweep to darce, i also wrestled so i have solid take down and am verry dominat on top)

 

so in other words dont fawk with this dude

 

any advice on increase the strength of a dog's heart? i don't hunt with my dog and have no intentions of it, but as a competitive sport dog he works hard in the heat. i'd like to know reccommendations of exercises to increase his staying power and recovery time. thanks!

 

Ah I remember now. Sorry, my memory is terrible, lol!

 

where can you buy the millmaker dvd

 

never seen it