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Gr ch vengeance

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by billbulldog, Apr 13, 2019.

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  2. NO!...THERE IS NO PROOF WHATSOEVER!....@Billbulldog.
     
  3. You don't see many modern day Stafford' s that are pure black like that. Most have a touch of white on the chest.
     
  4. And why would some one import British show stock to breed into his American game lines?..lol.he could of went to any breeders in the state's and got way better dogs!
     
  5. So what???...what's that even mean?
     
  6. Colour means nothing
     
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  8. Excatly...why would you?
     
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  9. I think limey kennels might disagree there lad!
     
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  10. Work it out son!
     
  11. Who's arsed what Limey kennels think?..and yes!.I've read the pelican brief......
    But if I can remember rightly Limey said the same..that they would not of been show dogs...
    And I have to just say right now I like Limeys colour tool what he uses.as it really makes sense.but it's more about the dogs themselves then there actual colour.

    LOL.they ain t hard coz of there colour
     
  12. Totally agree
     
  13. I can't lol.I'm lost?

    I'm looking at a picture of pure kc Staff right now.and it's solid black.
    There is also a picture of a k c one on the front of Dr Fliges book on Staffords to that is solid black.
     
  14. You're missing the point...just saying.
     
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  15. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    He didn't have to he had a girlfriend that own some .
     
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  16. Lrs

    Lrs Big Dog

    Seem to remember a member on this board talking with an old friend of his who had sbt that he used back in the day. From what I can remember he said they weren’t that game but they were good gambling dogs as they did huge damage fast. Sbt have been noted over the years as having above average mouth across the board. Depends on what you want? Game or winners? You might not need both lol.
     
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  17. billbulldog

    billbulldog Big Dog

    I've been told aswell alot of good staffords have a tremendous bite what gets me is they was a pit bull before 1935 then 35 came then they became show dogs surely not all the people show there staffords there must of been people keeping the working style right up to the 50s and that's were Tudor could of got them from I really dont believe everyone went the show root some I believe kept the working old strains going the Stafford just didn't become a show dog over night
     
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  18. Lrs

    Lrs Big Dog

    At the time it was considered a way to keep long term track on the pedigrees.they worked all the way up until the standard was changed to make it easier for women to handle them in the show ring. Plus papers raised the price of pups the main reason most old timers started to paper any dog imo.
     
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  19. corvettedex

    corvettedex CH Dog Premium Member

    Earl Tudor actually got Dibo from Howard Hienzl. He was a cold bulldog who didn't even have to be tethered . He ran around the yard and had no interest in other bulldogs. Howard actually sold "Dumbo" to Earl for a little bit of feed money. Earl knew what' he could do with a cold well bred bulldog. He had experience and he was gifted. Also, for those that might not know, Earl he had the 1st UKC 3xw Champion ever. A pure Colby male. Tudor'' fighting Peter, http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=3696 . , Don't be decieved because Henry himself crossed his bulldogs into JP Colby's stock.(Fact.) Years ago when when dog registries decided to register the Staffordshire terrier, after visiting top breeders yards they chose Colby's primo on what a Staffordshire terrier, should look like. I'm sure a lot of you already know this. But the goal wasn't just a name change. it was the have the look of a bulldog but without the gene of gameness.( More less) http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=865 also a pic of Primo. https://images.app.goo.gl/tyaehGKQ3Nk5cxLy8
     
  20. corvettedex

    corvettedex CH Dog Premium Member

    Of course they did back then they used a pure Colby dog which day in and day out with the best match dogs on the planet...
     

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