Ed reid

Reid's Skipper produced CH.Scotsman's Max a 45lb dog who defeated Northern Lad's CH.Billy at 50lb and Limey's Smokey 2xw at 55lb, Smokey had already defeated CH.Sinbad in New York State USA before losing to CH.Max...

Scotsman's CH.Max produced CH.Hagar (defeated GR.CH.Bruno) CH.Yogi (defeated GR.CH.Ned) Clever Charlie 2xw (defeated CH.Klogger) Archie (belly brother to Yogi and Hagar) collected one forfiet from CH.Fletcher before falling into the hands of RSPCA murdering bastards.

Scotsman's CH.Hagar produced CH.Curstopper (defeated GR.CH.Jacko) and Rayrock's Grizzly 2xw when bred to CH.Max's sister.

GR.CH.Bill laid waste to every dog that was ever put in front of him including CH.Massada and CH.Dirty Bertie... Bill was sired by Reids Buster, a dog that came direct from Ed Reid's yard... Whatever your opinions of Ed Reid (and I have none!) It could be said that Skipper dogs and their crosses set a European standard more than 20 years ago that was never equalled

 

the dogs u tell of , were a few of the good ones , and we have to rememeber that thereid dogs were in the high % of dogs for many years in the uk ,and even when some dogmen imported other lines , like bolio and mayfield and a mix of the usa bloodlines of the day , the reid blood by far outnumbered the other lines , and as a family of dogs , the reid blood was a very low % of quality ,eventhough it did have some very good dogs , but that familys worth to the core was of little value.

 

bill could not really be classed as a reid dog, bill was a cross of reid/nelis/panama/buzz lines,several lines working in the uk at that time, it is also difficult to say how the likes of hagar and yogi were bred as doubt has been raised to how genuine the tanya bitches pedigree was.
i certainly think that skipper was a prepotent dog and disagree with what someone above said about them not being competative, maybe the above poster is mixing them up with the mayfield stuff lol.reids skipper dogs were very compatative, not my line of choice but credit where credit is due.of the reid stuff i would only have taken skipper blood, the other stuff never impressed me too much.

 

Reid's al capone's grandsire topside is Nigger ROM

 

i knew there was a reason i was not struck on em

 

so you agree with me then sunbeam , the reid blood was competitve in the uk ,as lets face it 95% of dogs matched were of reid or some reid breeding ,but they never were able to go abroad or outside of the uk to holland for example and on a regular basis win with them..The skipper dog may have been prepotent for the uk ,but the trouble with the reid blood is that ed was never a dogman ,and only imported the dogs to make some money ,and as such his yardstick for buying top quality blood would not have been the same as a serious dogman whos intention was to match his dogs ,he was in the nicest possible way just a dog peddler who happened to peddle apbts instead of dobermanns .

 

sunbeam that remark shows what little understanding you have on breeding , even the most anti mayfield peolple regognise how important the nigger dog was , even those who say he was a cur wish they could have had him on their yard .

 

by far the best bred dog ed reid ever owned , even if he did not realise it .

 

Can see where ur comin from gar about the percentage of ried dogs being matched in the uk, but as i recall there wasnt many outfits who ran reid blood seriously as back in the day it wasnt rated, only a few dogmen stuck with it and like oldguy has posted achieved results that havnt happened again in europe as far as im aware(maybe wrong thou). Your other point about reid blood not doing anything much outside the uk, as i remember im sure one made ch abroad carrabien(excuse the spelling) kings crazy puma. You mention holland and abroad, but ried blood did do well in ireland which i rate alot higher than holland(nothing against dogs from there) just a few i can think of which did well from ireland who had reid blood in their lines are ch max who was to go against ch curstopper(match didnt take place) grch shelly, ch rex, ch tucker, ch sunny and ch flash all with reid blood in their lines aswell as grch ned who oldguy mentioned in his post. Back then the irish boys were the ones the beat and they had the best blood to choose from in my opinion, so they must of rated reid blood along with the uk boys. Dont know if the reid stuff has survived or not over in ireland so couldnt say if it has stood the test of time.

 

i would say my understanding would probably match yours, the fact their are smilies attached to the post shows me you don't understand internet humour.

 

how the hell would you know that ?

 

the fact is the best reid dogs were matched in the uk.the dogs in the uk in my opinion were the equal of the dogs in europe and holland. the thing with reid is, yes he peddled pups and very few of his dogs percentage wise ended up in dogmans hands but ended with joe publlic, if more had gone to dogmen i am sure more well known ones would be known as the best skipper dogs were as good as the best dogs europe have had to offer.and like i say , this is not my preffered line, the thing is a good dog is a good dog and being blinkered for or against a single strain makes some peoople miss that fact.

 

ed reid never bred a family of dogs, he made some crosses that worked well, i can think of people breeding "families" over here that bred more litters than ed reid did and still never produced the dogs that made names for themselves and their owners.a lot of people criticised the man but the fact is dogs from stockquest were competative, what folks did later with them is not down to reid, he bred about 6 or 7 champions and dogs that beat champions etc.he did something right in my opinion.

 

if your understanding of BREEDING was as mine you would never have made the statement about the nigger dog .

 

look at the ped of capone , if reid had a better bred dog of purer family breeding than al capone , please post the ped , but as i said , he probably didnt realise the quality of the breeding then and as a non dogman was just luck that ed bought that dog anyway.

 

good breeding is a matter of opinion

 

seeing what skip produced compared to others he had , i would say you would be a clown not to rate his stuff, i was very anti reid blood in the early days but learned that the grass is not always greener.

me in my make up with the dog, before i saw the light lol

 

i know that skipper produced well , and ive said that , but my feeling is that as a family of dogs , they were not dogs that i wanted to breed a yard around , and as i said the al capone dog was the only dog i would have bought from ed reid had he been for sale , as he was not bred like his skipper dog and the wises blood .By the way , those reid wises dogs were more human aggresive than most , and dare i say that as joe publics pitbulls were predominatly from that line ,and had ed not peddled so many pups to every tattoed skinheaded idiot ,and then into our nice hoodlums who had only an interest in being the hardnut in the park against curdogs ,we probably wouldnt have had the ban ,as those same dickheaded owners dogs were the ones on the news whos dogs had bitten and killed children and mauled old people and killed the neighbours dog etc, but at least ed reid had made his money by then .

 

IF my auntie had a dick she would be my uncle.

its impossible to say what would have happened. were the dogs that caused the shit even of reids breeding, i can not remember seeing a pedigree on the news.
i believe the wise blood is where the human aggresion in his dogs came from, brutus was culled because of it (at least he culled him when many would not have imo), i also remember seeing one of his sisters 9i forget which ) that i did not trust, skipper i found was fine as were most i saw out of him.i said before, reid never got into the breeding a family area of the dogs, he merely bred some crosses and the best were very good. nobody over here had much success breeding the purest family did they ?

 

CINNAMON M dann would have taken a yard full of her and so would all the real dogmen who seen her go .As for not knowing what line of dogs caused the most problems on our streets , well as 90% of joe public had reid dogs , it goes without saying that the probability would be very high.