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Don Mayfield’s Keep (Part 1)

Discussion in 'Training & Behavior' started by Stratman, May 18, 2016.

  1. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    well maybe for some but there is no reason to work a small dog any less than a big 1 . it's a dog nothing more . i would like to hear more of why you shouldn't do it . lol what is this people who peaked their dog proper notice a difference ?
     
  2. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    alot has to to with how much work exerts them and walking them along to a trot mid keep and steady pace building up to a peak,,,
    to where if you go over that peak the dog runs stale...
    the trick would be peaking them a week out and letting them rest,,,
    so all dogs exert different and yes the smaller they are,,, the less excersize they need to get to that point...

    Im sure there is alot of different ways to peak a dog out but from what I gather the outcome can be the same if done right...
    Sure ther are some dogs with better physique than others and those like hardcores ch redman with a abnormal lung capacity
    that would fall into another catagory...

    I ve seen first hand terrier catch dogs that can not possibly be a running catch dog,,,
    to where there ate handful of bulldogs that can chase and catch but not for as long a distance as bigger dog such as
    a dogo,,, cur,,, cat,,, etc...

    now watch a true lurcher on the chase,,,
    a saluki cross can run for days and run down a gazzelle...

    alot different from a short burst sight hound such as the grey hounds,,,
    but the saluki grey hound type crosses were sought and worked well as they had a better stamina for better and longer workouts...
    that balance inbetwen the grey hound and saluki is what a true lurcher is bred for...
     
  3. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    You know if you know what your doing the dog won't run stale . The dogs not going to run stale because your going to rest him if you know . Yes I think you should peak in the workout the week before and rest but not not to much they have to taper down and rest . Your still not selling me on the little dog shouldn't work the same as a big dog . I 'm not really understanding why . Your dog should be peaking fun day . No other day never . What would be a reason to peak him if he will peak before he needs to the last day ? Your right some dogs just have good wind . But it's your job to put it in your dog no matter if he has good wind you put it in them .
     
  4. Red Cemtre

    Red Cemtre Big Dog

    I agree Old Goat, you peak the workload before the show then taper off to allow the athlete to recover and replenish so they peak on the day. Thats basic physiology, only an idiot peaks prior to the event. In terms of small vs big, I don't see why you would work them any different either. Maybe distances or time would be a little shorter simply because the smaller dog has to work a tiny bit harder to cover the same ground but other than that, a bulldog is a bulldog whether it's 20 lbs or 65 lbs. I think a lot of people overthink this stuff
     
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  5. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    Maybe in weight pull a smaller dog may burn out quicker , shit I don't know..Big dogs or small dogs can have not the greatest wind, size really don't matter.They will all let you know when they get hot.
     
  6. O.S.O. NAS

    O.S.O. NAS Big Dog

    I will stick with Each dog is different and Treated as such. I do enjoy the reading of thread and enjoy the videos even more. Makes for a great rainy day or study guide. Thanks for th share as many have not seen this nor anything like.
     
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  7. TROTLINE

    TROTLINE Top Dog

    That's pretty much it! There are some you just put on A cable run and only feed keep,, and there are ones because of style and needs you have to poor the work to! Any of these keeps are just an outline only! You are correct know your charge!
     
  8. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    Never use distance just time . And a small dog will work the same as a big 1 . Sounds like to many never seen a small dog work .
     
  9. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    I have read the posts and I think it is maybe the other way around. The smaller dogs are normally more athletic and can do more. Very seldom will a 50lb. dog have the athleticism of a 35lb. dog. It happens, but not the norm.

    The smaller dogs can usually go harder and longer. Like boxing lightweights and heavyweights. The heavier guys are laying the wood but not as often and not for the same lengths of time. Dogs no different.

    My smaller dogs tend to do more than my bigger dogs. But each dog gets a different amount based on the individual dog.

    S
     
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  10. O.S.O. NAS

    O.S.O. NAS Big Dog

    I can't tell anyone how to treat their dog or dogs as Each is different and will require such treatment. Personally I have used all sizes regarding the hounds of course minus them big ones as we keep them O.S.O. In size but everyone does their things differently and I for one will not act as if I Know it All and tell others they haven't done this nor that. But then most don't work like We Do.
     
  11. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    That's another thing why is each dog different ? They should all be able to do the same work you just need to know how to get them there . I know some do but I don't understand why . If the dog has a health problem then yes work a little different but if not they should get the same work . How small was the smallest dog 20's -30's ? I bet most never worked like some .
     
  12. O.S.O. NAS

    O.S.O. NAS Big Dog

    For the same reason humans even twin siblings work different each are individuals both humans n dogs and so they do things differently every so often. How small for Mine , 26 smallest but that for me doesn't shape how We shape.
     
  13. Stratman

    Stratman Big Dog

    I learned 40 or so years ago that a good small dog can do everything a good big dog can do And do it faster and longer.
    KOS
     
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  14. niko

    niko CH Dog

    In any sport there's always more action at the smaller weights....I watch a lot of high level wrestling and when a guy aint moving quick on his feet we say they're moving like a heavyweight lol
     
  15. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    Always worked smaller dogs harder, not necessarily harder but as stated they normally do everything faster and longer than a big dog can ime it's easier to cut a big dogs weight down than it is a bigger one
     
  16. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    I got a 20 something gyp that will work til she drop. Heat will pull her down quicker, like Bama said. She will out work my big dog tho, bout 56-58 in shale depends on weather. He loves work too, but she is just more athletic. She's built more like a terrier, he's like a bulldog or AB. Leggy, not squat
     
  17. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    lol Sorry but I'm not buying you have to work a dog different unless it has a health problem or a black dog in the heat . You have a job to do just like the rest of them so why work different unless there is a problem or it's hot and you have a black dog ?
     
  18. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    She is black
     
  19. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    For what it's worth, I value Saiy's posts. He calls it like he sees it and doesn't sugar coat anything. We need more like him around.
     
  20. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua

    Thanks man, there is only a select few that can bypass there emotional content in order for them to clearly see the truth. To those with a lot of emotional content they tend to see me as a bully and that I am picking on them for no apparent reason, which is not always true....I reply straight up to ANYONE that I feel is wrong/not knowing the truth regardless if you are a newbie, wannabe, old timer, mod , super mod , God mod or whatever LOL...I do not target post that I believe to be the TRUTH, I only target those that are FULL OF SHIT, it has nothing to do with that person personally but if you keep on saying dumb ass shit I will keep on targeting you because bullshit needs to be corrected or else those without much experience will believe all the bullshit they have read and try to turn that bullshit into truth, which is basically why this world is fucked up today because of all the bullshit people be spewing for what ever reasons or agendas.
     
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