Dogs Understand Human Smiles, Scowls

Freddie I was not trying to insult you.If you have read much of those two agencies propaganda you would possibly see the common element I speak of or atleast see similarities in yalls fictional,dream world,argue with a brick wall type writing.You just happened to match a few where they havent.Now you have added some interesting post in your time back,but the percentages of that interesting content have gone down of late.Maybe youve dropped the act a little I dont know.As I said before no disrespect intended.I can also understand where you would feel disrespected by the use of those two agencies in comparison with your but all I can say is that it was an honest response to what I read.A spewing of bullshit just like they do.I dont know about everyone here but Im not big on fiction especially when it comes to dogs.Seriously though if you arent able to feed yourself on book sells you may could make a good living spinning the truth for the aspca or hsus.I think you are one hell of a propaganda author.

 

"Man its like reading a new age poet or riddle when you type fritz. LMAO Your the one mixing apple and oranges or pomegranates if you will fritz. The difference is humans can comprehend and understand the concept of innocence but dogs cannot LMAO. Not every one is TOTALLY RID of innocence by the time they start grade school. Some innocence is lost but a lot still remains in certain individuals and some more then others."

All right, one more time round for the excessive gigglers:

"Man its like reading a new age poet or riddle when you type fritz."

Yes, but why blame me for your lack of comprehension?

"LMAO Your the one mixing apple and oranges or pomegranates if you will fritz."

What I said was that it was like mixing apples and pomegranates comparing humans to dogs. Why would you disagree with that unless you consider humans and dogs exactly the same?

"The difference is humans can comprehend and understand the concept of innocence but dogs cannot LMAO."

Oh really? I would say it differently: Dogs have no need of understanding the concept of innocence what with their being in fact innocence itself -- whereas we humans have to turn innocence into a concept because, having for the most part lost it (you've heard of Original Sin?), we have to look on from a distance and seek to understand it.

"Not every one is TOTALLY RID of innocence by the time they start grade school."

No, not totally, but for the most part. They, our children, have already been taught to cover up their nakedness; they've learned how to be polite rather than rude (despite that there are still adults among us who have failed that lesson); and they've learned that their main purpose in life will be to become good hardworking and productive citizens of whatever country they were born in.

"Some innocence is lost but a lot still remains in certain individuals and some more than others."

Truly, are you suggesting I don't already know that? Yet even so, there's no denying that it is we human beings alone who are forever obliged to live with that Original Sin of ours: that "sin" of our having become self-aware.

But there, I've already broken my own rule about responding to those who merely jeer -- broken it twice, in fact. And as if I hadn't better things to do.

 

See there Fred that post had more context.You can obviously see pretty good and I wish there were more intelligent individuals like yourself in these dogs and on this forum.I dont think many can even begin to graspe what you said towards the end of your last post and it definantly clarified for me your understanding of atleast one major thing that separates us and dogs.I think we are all guilty of leaving reality or grounded thinkin at times for one reason or another.

 

Fritz and TDK certainly have a way with words. I will say this, not all dogs are as primitive as others. Even though I agree this experiment doesn't prove anything, based on my limited experience with dogs and other I believe some dogs can differentiate between a smile and scowl looking at a picture.

 

"which were trained to discriminate between the happy and angry expressions", if the dogs werent ever trained to discriminate do you think they would be able to differentiate between a smile and a scowl on there first try ursaminor?

I trained my chihuahua how to discriminate between the hard wood floor and her puppy pads and also between the hard wood floors and going out side. Its no different in what they did with that facial expression picture experiment. I should post my experiment on the internet and have all the dumb fucks gasp in awe at my useless study/experiment LMAO

The problem with all these new scientific studies is that they are just THEORIES. Any dick, tom , or harry can write one of them and post it on the internet for all to see and there will always be dumb ass people that will take these studies as factual or the truth. I also feel a lot of these new scientific articles popping up on the internet have a hidden agenda whether it be for money, power, or a specific cause there is a hidden reason behind it, instead of actually searching for the truth. Plus like I said in my other post I hope these useless studies are not funded by we the tax payers. Would yawl rather see your tax dollars go to use less studies like the one I just mentioned or studies on how to cure diseases?

 

What I meant is that I believe some dogs can sense your mood by looking at your facial expressions from a picture through association without training. Not something that a puppy would understand perhaps but a grown dog could easily learn it over time and associate smile with a happy mood. For all I know it is inbeded in some after being domesticated by us for couple thousand years? The research was lacking for sure but then again who is going to fund something as insignificant to find out? Not me.

 

i'm going to settle this right now . i have an ole bitch that stays in the house . she's 13 and thinks she can do what ever she wants . she farted so loud the other day i told her what are you doing girl with a mean look on my face . well she just turned around and smiled at me so there end of research and study .

 

Maybe you should ask fritz it seems he likes to dab in the insignificant fictional realm LMAO...snap oh no you did ent LMAO

 

i didn't smile at my dog like i alway do . so she acted liked she didn't care what i thought . so my research says they don't know what a smile is . they only feel your emotions through feel and voice and smell . but hell i may be young who knows . and T stop making your dog smell your farts and smiling and laughing at her thinking she thinks your happy .

 

you mean they'll steal your paper after all your research T . they're mean you'll just have to do it again and eat a lot of deer sausage and beans . poor dogs going to haven't to go on spring break after your research T .

 

all the damn research the dog had to go through just to see if it knew you were smiling that 's mean T i'm telling ya now .

 

I won't be coming back to these boards anymore, but thought I'd leave you all with a short paragraph from Red Tina written over thirty years ago:

[FONT=&quot]Then Pete would shake his finger at me one last time and be staring hard knocks at me... and then often I[FONT=&quot]'[/FONT]d see something in Pete[FONT=&quot]'[/FONT]s manner that said he wasn[FONT=&quot]'[/FONT]t as mad as he woulda liked me to believe [FONT=&quot]--[/FONT] a sort of crinkle in his face [FONT=&quot]--[/FONT] and my wagger would go rap-rap-rap on the floor of my doghouse and my tongue would loll out and I[FONT=&quot]'[/FONT]d go pant-pant-pant and look up at Pete and wish with all my might that he wouldn[FONT=&quot]'[/FONT]t be mad at me anymore and would call me to him and say it was all right. Then, just when Pete[FONT=&quot]'[/FONT]s face was all set to go really crinkly around his eyes and mouth and he was about to flash me his pearly whites, he[FONT=&quot]'[/FONT]d turn away and go into the house.[/FONT]

 

Well, I for one, will miss Fritz expression of thought.....let's all gather around and sing Kumbaya lol.