Dog Aggression

Ok, I just finished watching a clip from "off the chain" and the guy they were interviewing said that "its the hatred of the breed that makes them fight."

Here is my question: In your opinion is it the hatred for one another, or is it the quest to be the best that makes them want to keep going?

IMO i dont think that its hatred i dont think that they are capable of hate.

whats your opinion?

 

Simple answer: It's what they do. It just "is".

 

I dont think its hate also yet i dont think its `the best` as this would be pride and dogs dont have these emotions(sp?)

it could just be nature kicking in.

 

Its natural for them to be dog aggressive like how it is natural for people to be greedy

 

I agree it is what they were bred to do.

 

a wagging tail is not hatred. its simply the love to please.
that "off the chain" video is not the best place to take notes from.

 

Its natural for a bulldog to be DA. It has been bred into them over hundreds of years and i dont think its hate it just genetics kicking in.

 

Just as a Thoroughbred has been bred for thousands of years to run, so has the APBT been bred to fight. It's not anything "mean" or "vicious" about them, it's just the job they were bred to do. Only your typical street thugs & gangsta wanna-bes & street fighters force or try to make a dog fight. The majority of these dogs did their job b/c they wanted to, not because they had to. As hard as this idea is to grasp for some, it's just the way it was & peopel need to accept that fact.

 

Thats my opinion, throw "off-the-chain" away and stop giving money to people out to destroy our breed. If you really wish to learn a thing or two, your taking 10 steps back by watching that movie. Find a mentor in your area and ask how its really done.

 

it has nothing to do with hatred,,certain dogs were bred for certain things and this stays with them.

 

its what they do.. domination also plays a roll .. a good dog has the need to dominate the other dog ( both males and females who mark territory .. that is a sign of domination among other things..)

other reasons a dog would fight is a fear based aggression in which the dog is basically forced to fight ( a cornered dog with no way out)

Dogs nurture their young, show loyalty, show anger, show when they are happy... and happiness imo constitutes love ....

 

I think it is a natural drive that comes from the breeding that is then fed and shaped into what it becomes. Handeling has a lot to do with the performance of any animal. Even horses, the jockey is key. You take your lemons and make lemonaide.

 

I would term it as an innate desire. Something they're born with. It's nothing you need to train them to do. Agreed, it just "is".

Hatred is a humans' personification of what they think the dog has.
Dogs have instincts.
Humans are the ones with hatred.

 

I agree 100%

 

You put that very well 14Rock. and it's not hatred for dogs, pits have been bred to be animal aggressive, fear absolutely nothing and be people friendly for hundreds of years. My dogs will go after any animal from birds to horses, and yes i had one chase 4 horses through a fence one time but they had got out so it wasn't his fault. So u see it's not they just don't like dogs either. And there is still a few of us that will continue to breed for the exact same qualities. Unfortunately we are getting more and more people who don't breed for the same traits and it's ruining our great breed of dogs. Just my $.02.

 

really i think 14rock hit it on the head, but some dogs do neeed to be coached into it

 

Ya I did motorcross, down hill skiing, ah hell if I could break something or had a real good chance of getting seriously hurt or killed but had the same chance of seeing someone else do it too I was game for it. But I was dropped as a baby and I was dribbled down the hallway before they gave me any tit so I am half wolf and half nuts. 100% socialpathic psycopath. Oh ya and the shrink at the VA says psycotic. Just because I hung him out the window just to watch him scream like a girl till he pee'd on himself. Was it the action or the laughing that made him call me such a bad name? hmm

oh yah. My dogs don't need to be coached into doing any thing if it is furry kill it. Simple thing. I didn't have to tell them to do it. Maybe the voices made them do it.

 

i think i have to agree with WWII

 

Rock,
Thank you for your responce. Actually I never paid for the video i watched it online (free). I do not agree with the movie at all. I feel your answer was the one that i was looking for, the same as i thought. I in no way support that movie, and knew all and well that he was wong in saying that it was the hatred for one another. I just wanted to get everones views on DA and i have gotten them. Thanks

 

Couln't agree more on that one! And like WWII said, "it just is"