Does anyone still have tight tonka/ tombstone

Is there any Wise's king or anything bred up heavy on the tonka/ tombstone still out there that is not outcrossed to much? I had a female that died not to long ago... 204002 This is not her but this is her pedigree. Can someone post it for me Thanks

 

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=204002

 

A male that was off of his sister fea bred to a carver male was and is still one of the best I seen. I really like everything that came off her, she died not to long ago, is Batdog still around?

 

...very nice....had a bitch not as heavy as above....few year back...would love to have more....have'nt heard much about it latly come to thinking............

 

Nice bred dog.

 

Just bumping to see if any of this is around

 

The Wise suff, well, basically the Red Rock stuff is hard to come by. Did you ever breed her ?

 

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [373752] :: STICKMAN X FEA

There was a ace hound out of this litter off of her

 

I'm going to bump this one more time. Anyone from tx know the man that runs this? I think there are only 2 yards that have it heavy.

 

Any red rock out there?

 

A good friend sought out some tight wise blood and was unable to work something out with the man,,,
I find that hard to believe because this man is easiest person to get along...

He has been close friends with TDK for thirty years as well as others honest dogmen,,,
well respected and spoken by his peers...

he summed up SEEKING for tight WISE blood as a lost cause not meant to be,,,
he had the same conclusion when dealing with Kizenbaw,,,
the more he sought the old CLOUSE TOMBSTONE cross
the more KIzenbaw felt it was worth...

In the early ninties KZB offered to rent a brood bitch for twenty five hundred dollars,,,
with the conditions she be bred to Hollingsworth Crash or Bull (forgot which one),,,
split the litter with the owner of the stud as KZB was in debt with him,,,
and send the bitch back after the breeding...

What I have learned from his lessons,,,
is the people behind the dogs or blood you are seeking is far more important than blood you are looking for...

But re-creating a monster via the same cross is good experiment to see if the cross is successful or just a lucky breeding...

 

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=447909

I like it with the Carver for sure. I seldom get on the internet anymore but happened to today. This dog you posted still alive ?

 

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=461593

 

I have also came to the conclusion that I might as well give it up and focus on the breeding that left me wanting more and keep that line going as much as I can. The cross seems to be working well but I am still left feeling like a crackhead chasing that first high that I am slowly realizing there is no high like the first one. This year I am on the chase to add some of the carver back into the yard but I have yet to decide what source I will be using but I do know the options will be very limited. Check this old fella out that I think I am going to make a call and try that re-creation you are talking about.
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=332374