DNA Profiled

It helps in many other ways as well, let's say you are expecting a litter and you got first pick, you got both the sire and dam profiled, won't you prefer to pick your pup on more solid grounds?

 

No. Then I would have to DNA all the pups to see who has the closest to the parent, grandparent, or whatever I like. Fuuuuug dat. If it's my litter and they are all equally healthy I would take the attitude I like. If they all act the same I would pick the ones that look like they are supposed to. If the all look and act a like, let your child or ol lady pick. I don't think there is ANY way on choosing the best dog and producer. Some ppl seem to better at it than others. Best way really is to keep em all of you can. Start with the best possible and make good decisions. Don't inbreed to stack a bunch of names, inbreed to reproduce the Truth, male or female

 

Only a thought or vision: say you come up with the male u dreamed of after all the sweat and tears. So u DNA him, you breed him to like females of your choice... Females and pups dna'd. You male dies now what. On paper you one breed 2 of his kids each pup afterwards is 50% him... Ok. Are they really him, maybe they look like him but still pulled from the bottom sides of his pups(the dams he was breed to). Before I make the breeding how about I check the DNA of the pups I want to stick together find the 2 closest and still cross my fingers...that's how its was explained to me..@the same time you know the pup is in lineage true pedigree or not, the dog still came from my boy...man hopes this makes since....even if he is stole sold and found i can prove it with a swap...I think

Honest kennels selling pups shouldn't have a problem with this...well @least give the true recipe to your client...

 

That's a great post^ Vicki !


We have a few that are dna'd (I just skimmed thru the thread) ...my feeling on it is when selling pups or offering one @ stud DNA profiled parent/parents/stud are a bonus..obviously you want to guarantee what you are getting reguardless of bloodline. IMO you are buying/selling off a certain dog or dogs as individuals whichever your line of choice is (if they aren't bulldogs they shouldn't be bred). If I payed 1500-2k for a pup or stud fee from a public kennel...hell yeah I would want DNA'd !!! But if I picked up a pup from a friend or somebody in my circle I wouldn't care about dna or papers because I know its bred and know the parents. I am sure some/all of what I am saying has been said on this thread but I think the thing is that DNA'd make ppls feel a little more comfy with some of todays prices. If am spending that amount with someone I am not in the "know" with then I think dna is good as guarantees to what I am investing in....as it is an investment. With the time/feed/care you are going to provide. Me personally haven't bought a dog in WELL over 10 years and I paid $300 for a few pups off of Ch Crybaby, 2 of them worked out. If I could go back in time and do that same deal for 10k...ABSOLUTELY! Its a crap shoot with pups/breedings atleast with dna'd you know what you got. As there are a lot of stories about famous dogs of the past actually being bred differently or actually the son/brother/cousin/sister to said dog.

 

I was trying to edit and add to the above but that dang 2 minute drill. Now I forgot what I was saying....No honestly think about some of the big name kennels when the internet was "invented" . I would be surprised if there wasn't somethin controversial with 90% of them. Sorry for the rant.

 

To point out some negatives of this doing, let's say you got sire A and dam B bred, you got a litter of 4 pups. Pup 1 is 80% (identical to the desired dog in his ped), pup 2 70%, pup 3 60% pup 4 30%.

who is to say that pup 1 is better than the others or pup 4 is the worst out of his litter mates? Pup 4 might end up being the most superior to his litter mates but the one with least resemblance to the desired dog.

So there is always a risk anyway

 

Word! EVERYBODY WAS SELLING EVERYTHING!! Your favorite dogman probably had somethin for sale on the boards back then!

 

Hmmmmm I only have 1 dog worth DNA worthiness !You know why ?

 

I could care less about the percentage of the pups Malik. When I first thought about dna was when I had an older stud and he was missing more than hitting. I have bitch that was getting up there in age and wanted pups off of her. So I dna'd both studs and bred her to both. As luck would have it I got pups off both .

 

You DNA both males. Then you stuck both males to the one female. Then DNA tested the pups to see who was who?

 

I am getting 2 DNA kits .Never have I done this ,so I assume u swab the mouth.My dog don't like anything around his mouth ,so how have you guys been doing this ?

 

I see. That would be the only reason I can see to DNA a dog or pups. Still a very rare case. Also a rare case to dual sire IMO

 

Sometimes when one gets older and it's hit and miss you wanna make sure the bitch gets bred you may breed her to the older male as well a younger one that feel more confident on being a success. As in you may do the first times to the older dog and then a last to the younger dog hoping that something in the first ones took but having the backup plan that something in the last did if they didnt

 

I feel that, breed to old dog and son of old dog if that's what I was chasin. I understand the concept, can't say that I would use it. Never say never tho

 

Very nice, that's another good advantage, anyway yes it has it's pros and cons, but in general it's a useful tool