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D Brian plummer documentary

Discussion in 'Patterdale Terriers' started by Blackpoison, Jan 12, 2021.

  1. Blackpoison

    Blackpoison CH Dog

    Creator of plummer terriers
     
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  2. Blackpoison

    Blackpoison CH Dog

  3. Fucking hell ive seen this fucking years ago!
    Absolutely years ago!

    Awesome man.the lone furrow.

    A forgotten video for sure!
    Good find.
     
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  4. A misunderstood guy for sure.

    A legend in his own right.
     
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  5. No body wanna discuss Plummer or these docs?

    Stedz?
    OG?

    Anyone?
     
  6. Blackpoison

    Blackpoison CH Dog

    Yea some real good videos , he got his wish when he said i want my terriers to be called plummer terriers , just shows how old video is.
    He seems like a guy who likes to create breeds, in the video he is messing around with other breeds like german shepherd.
    Seems anti society too haha
     
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  7. stedz

    stedz Top Dog

    He came from my way and know lots of lads who knew him,and he was a bullshitter,he would get stories from people and put them in his books as his own experiences.The older terrier and lurcher men saw him as a bit of a joke figure.Having said that as a kid i enjoyed his books,still do a few of them,and they certainly filled a void in the market.Just take them with a pinch of salt.I went off him a bit when in one of his books he claimed he had an uncle who took bets on the amount of fatalities after pit accidents.That certainly never happened because anyone doing that in the area would have gone missing for sure,no doubt with his skull caved in.I did hear though that the profits he got from the two books he wrote under the name michael shaw,were donated to the striking miners fund,if that was true i would happily shake his hand and buy him a pint,thats for sure.
     
  8. Fatman91

    Fatman91 Pup

    Can't see what these terriers bring to the table myself.. Never were 100% earth dogs just general aul moochers.. Something any terrier or terrier x beagle would do
     
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  9. stedz

    stedz Top Dog

    plummer never created a breed, "plummer terriers" are merely a strain of jack russell terrier that have always been around,every other pigeon fancier in my area had 1or 2 of these dogs back in the day,that would live under the shed just to keep vermin down and cats away etc.If a terrierman bred a litter back in the day,the best went to working homes,and the runt of the litter was usually given away either for the above,or as a pet for some young kid.That is what plummer terriers remind me of,the jr runts that used to be ten a penny when i was a kid in my area.
     
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  10. I’ve read the book about his uncle taking bets mate and he said his uncle got the shit beat out of him for it.(Tales of a rat hunting man)
    Bullshtter yeah,but the man was a loner..as far as he was concerned the rest of the world were bats..I can see what he means.
    He was actually Welsh.but spent a lot of his time in the midlands.he was school teacher in the area for a long time.
    I don’t know nothing about his terrier dogs like how good they are or whatever?.ive seen a few vids of them rat hunting in a pack and they seemed good at there job to me..
    But I don’t hunt rats lol...I have years ago when I was a kid.and it’s a wicked form of hunting.the ferrets take a beating for sure.

    Plummer was Rat mad lol.
    He new a lot about rats I’ll give him that.

    All the best Stedz.
     
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  11. stedz

    stedz Top Dog

    I have heard of the odd one that made a good all round terrier,but never seen one,so the percentage must be very low.no doubt they make good ratters,but any half decent terrier would.
     
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  12. He admits on the video and in his omega book that his dogs are not for foxes or badgers they are for rats only.
    So dogs for jobs in that respect mate..if you get a Plummer terrier to hunt foxes,then that’s just daft mate.i don’t know why anybody would expect his dogs to be all rounders?
    And even fells and Lakeland’s and such ain’t all roundes.they are fox dogs, they get smashed to bits of Badgers mate.
    Not many all rounders over here mate these days.dont get me wrong and all these fells will kill rats with a vengeance of course.but I still would not class them for the most parts as all rounders..

    What am I even on about?
    Take no notice of me I don’t even keep terriers lol.
    Haha who am I to say what’s a all round terrier?!?!?!

    What a hypocrite you are Soze!
     
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  13. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    I actually watched all that video last night. Very interesting.
     
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  14. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    That's good info mate, thanks.. I bought Plummer's books out of Exchange & Mart when I first got interested in dogs, Nathan, Off the beaten track & a few others, have to say I enjoyed them & if he donated, even some of his royalties to striking Miners and their families, then I'd have shook his hand and got him drunk too.. Most writers borrow, steal and artistically edit a lot of their material, fuck sake, Irvine Welsh made himself a multi millionaire sitting in pubs & listening to stories about junkies.. I never had much interest in earth dogs, although I respect them hugely but read the other day that cities over run by rats now, just wondering what them £2000 Labradoodles and £3000 Cockapoos intend doing about it?
     
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  15. :)):)):)):)):))........

    To funny man.
     
  16. Hope your ok mate.

    To funny man.
     
  17. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    That barn hunting rats with the dogs looks like a real good time. Them lil fellas were smashing them rats. If I ever got another breed, which I probably never will but if I did, I'd want something like these small little tenacious terriers since I already hunt, just never with dogs. We got plenty of underground adversaries here. I owned a Jack Russell years ago when my daughter was 2. High strung little girl she was. Got to see her and her mother go down a groundhog hole and totally destroy the groundhog. I had to give her to an older couple that owned a farm and didn't have kids or I was going to cull her. She bit my daughter in the face. I seen all the blood and snapped. Took my mother and my daughters mother from the the time it happened, I went and loaded my .270 and was dragging her out back to shoot her in my parents back yard before they talked some sense into me.

    Lol they live in a very uppity cul-de-sac type HOA area so I'm glad they calmed me down enough to think straight before I ended up in jail for culling that dog.

    She's still alive today at 14 year old and has lived a very spoiled life.

    Definitely not breeds I would want small children around but I do really like them real small terriers
     
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  18. no your right...there not fucking pets mate.i totally agree.ide of culled the little shit as well.
    I’ve noticed little dogs like that don’t like being picked up so much.
    Haha I remember me mate once lol.all pissed and totally on another planet when we were kids.and we went back to me mate lol and this little jack russle was curled up in a ball a sleep on the couch and me mate just sort of shoved it of the couch in a sort of nasty way.the dog sat there stirring at him for a moment then out of no were jumped up and hung on his lip.honesty mate I don’t think I’ve ever laughed so much.it would not let go watsoever and my mate was screaming like a little bitch.
    I was in hysterics and just told him he deserved it lol..he battered the dog but it would not let go and i was just in fucking hysterical fits of laughter so much I near had a hart attack..in the end (after about a full ten minutes lol)I actually had to choke the little fiend of his lip lol.
    He wanted to cull the dog after it but I was having none of it..I think if I was not there he was of strangled it and set its body on fire he was so angry.

    He excepted in the end and a night in the hospital that it was his fault, and made it up with his buddy lol.

    He never threw it of the couch again,and when we would go to his he would stroke the dog on the head roughly and laugh and say “remember when you bit my lip of you little fucker”..

    I’ll never forget that in all my life.
    I think it was the funniest thing I’ve ever seen.
     
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  19. CockneyRebel

    CockneyRebel Big Dog

    Plummer was a complete dreamer but could tell a good tale nonetheless.
    Those tales made the hairs on the back of your neck stand up as a youngster keen on hunting.
    I believe his books were the most stolen in libraries throughout the UK.

    None of the serious lads took him seriously, in fact many thought he was an idiot as he could be big headed and boastful.

    He ended up living out his days in Scotland from what I recall, have to laugh when his ferret locked on to Richard Whiteley live on TV.
     
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  20. No way man remember that?
    Hahaha I think that ferret incident actually made Plummer more famous then his books to be honest.
     
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