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Crenshaw keep

Discussion in 'APBT History' started by csotelo9388, Sep 24, 2010.

  1. csotelo9388

    csotelo9388 Big Dog






    To begin with you must have a healthy dog. This is a 12 week keep. The first 4 weeks I
    walk the dog 10 miles per day. I walk him everyday for these 4 weeks and feed one
    hour after the walk. If the show is to begin at 8:00 p.m. then I walk my dog from 5
    p.m. to 8 p.m. This 4 weeks is to pre condition the dog and get him close to weight. It is
    very important to get all gut or internal fat out of him. If you can't get the fat out from
    his intestines, heart, lungs, and liver, you can't put him in shape.
    For the first 4 weeks I feed the following:

    1. 1 cup pro plan (chicken and rice) adult formula
    2. 1 cup Kellogg's All-Bran
    3. 1 or 2 cloves chopped garlic
    4. 1 tablespoon chopped spinach
    5. 2 cups chicken broth
    6. 1 cup cooked chicken

    Place items1-2-3-4 in feed pan. Heat items 5-6 (pour over 1-2-3-4)
    To make the chicken and broth I place 15 chicken thighs in a 3 gallon stock pot and fill
    with water. Cook until tender and place in refrigerator when cool.

    WEEK 5:

    The walk is still 10 miles (5p.m. to 8p.m). Immediately after the walk, while he is still
    warmed up, he gets 5 minutes on the treadmill. When he comes off mill, walk him 30
    minutes to cool down. Then rub him down good and put him in his quarters. Prepare
    his food an feed him one hour after he comes off the mill. (If your dog is losing
    excessive weight, feed more dog food). If he is dehydrated, increase liquid. However, if
    he is losing too much weight it is possible you are going at the wrong weight. He should
    not have water between mill and feed time. But when you feed him, place at least 1/2
    gallon clean water where he has access to it. The water should be changed and the
    container cleaned daily. I read once where someone said the green stuff in water won't
    hurt the dog.....But you give him one bucket of clean and one green with algae and see
    which one he drinks from!!!!!!!!!

    Continue each day of week 5 the same. With only 5 minutes mill work, it shouldn't be
    necessary to rest him this week. But this keep is only a guide. You have to use common
    sense. If the dog is tired or doesn't feel good,"Rest Him".

    WEEK 6:

    Walk 10 miles (5p.m-8p.m)
    10 minutes on mill
    Rub down
    Everything stays the same (If the dog loses weight, add additional dog food). Everything
    else stays the same. Be sure to replace water.

    WEEK 7:

    Walk 10 miles (5pm-8pm)
    20 minutes on mill
    Rub Down
    Everything else same except feed:
    With 10 miles walk, 20 minutes on mill, and 30 minutes to cool down, the dog should
    be drying out some. At this time I leave all ingredients the same except liquid and
    chicken. I put 3 whole chicken thighs (including skin) with bone removed. Broth: add 1
    ounce per pound body weight (40 pound dogs gets 40 ounces broth daily). Wait one
    hour after mill and feed. Put water so he can drink.

    WEEK 8:

    Walk Same 10 miles (5pm-8pm)
    Mill 15 minutes
    Walk 30 minutes
    Mill 15 minutes
    Walk 30 minutes to cool down, Rub down, feed on hour after mill, and replace water.

    WEEK 9:

    Walk 10 miles (5p.m-8p.m)
    Mill 20 minutes
    Walk 30 minutes
    Mill 20 minutes
    Walk 30 minutes
    Rub down
    Feed on hour after mill
    REPLACE WATER

    WEEK 10:

    Walk 10 miles (5p.m-8p.m)
    Mill 30 minutes
    Walk 30 minutes
    Mill 30 minutes
    Walk 30 minutes
    Rub down
    Feed on hour after mill
    WATER

    WEEK 11:

    SUNDAY
    Begin 10 mile walk at 4 p.m. Finish walk at 7p.m
    Mill 30 minutes
    Walk 30 minutes
    Mill 30 minutes
    Walk 30 minutes
    Mill 30 minutes
    Walk 30 minutes
    Rub down
    Feed at 10:30. WATER!!!!!!!!!

    MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY=SAME AS SUNDAY

    FRIDAY
    Walk 5 miles (ending at 8p.m)
    Mill 20 minutes
    Walk 30 minutes

    Mill 20 minutes
    Walk 30 minutes
    Rub down
    Feed one hour after mill (10:10), WATER!!!!!!!!!!

    SATURDAY:

    Walk 5 miles
    Mill 15 minutes
    Walk 30 minutes
    Mill 15 minutes
    Rub down
    Feed one hour after mill (10:10p.m) WATER!!!!!!!

    WEEK 12:

    SUNDAY:
    Walk 5 miles ending at 8p.m
    Mill 10 minutes
    Walk 30 minutes
    Mill 10 minutes
    Rub down
    Feed one hour after mill (9:50p.m) WATER!!!!!!!

    MONDAY:

    Walk one hour ending at 8p.m
    Mill 10 minutes
    Walk 30 minutes Rub down
    Feed one hour after mill (9:10pm.) WATER!!!!!

    TUESDAY:

    Today I put the dog in a kennel in my bedroom, keep the room cool and quiet. I take
    him out early in the morning for a good walk (about 30-45 minutes). Put him up until
    noon and take him for another 30-45 minute walk.
    4-pm--walk for one hour
    5pm-- feed, put back in kennel
    9pm-- walk just long enough for him to empty or urinate. Put in kennel until morning. I
    offer him water after each walk before he goes back in the kennel.

    WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY==SAME AS TUESDAY

    FRIDAY:

    I made sure to arrive at the area of the show at least 30 (THIRTY) hours before
    showtime so I could feed the last meal there and to insure my dog got plenty of rest.
    8pm. 2cc Dex 2mg-ml. Put under skin, NOT muscle.

    SATURDAY:

    6am. 5cc Dex under skin

    ALL THIS IS A GUIDE IF THE SHOW IS AT 8PM SATURDAY

    I never feed but once daily. This will keep your dog regular and insure he is empty at
    show time. Next to getting the gut fat out of him, this is the most important: making
    sure he is empty at show time. He will get hot an week if he has anything in his
    stomach.

    To make weight, I use broth without any solids. I strain chicken broth through cheese
    cloth and save one pint. You can give this to him up to 3 hours before show time and it
    will not do any harm.

    And last, this is only a guide. You have to use common sense to apply with any success.
    Example:

    If the dog loses weight, feed more
    If he gains weight, work more or feed less
    if he is tired, rest him
    if you are lazy and don't work your dog, he won't be in shape
    if he is dry, add more broth
    if his is too wet, decrease broth

    Don't push him too fast. Work according to schedule in pre-keep to prepare him for
    work.

    Not many people have the ability to condition

    I once read an article that Earl Tudor wrote which said he doubted it there was 5 men
    in the world that knew how to find a dog's weight, get the gut fat out, and knew how to
    condition him after he got the fat out.

    I WILL GO ONE STEP FURTHER AND SAY:
    If there are 3 today that know this and are not too LAZY to put him in shape, I do not
    know them.

    GOOD LUCK
    IT'S HARD WORK AND TAKES A LOT OF TIME
     
  2. oldslowblue

    oldslowblue Big Dog

    Way too much handwalking. People often think if 5 mile good, then 10 must be better. Not the case. Handwalking works the muscle as well as adding wind to your dog. Too much, and you are literally deteriating the muscle you are trying to build.
     
  3. popper

    popper CH Dog

    IMO hand walking does not add wind....You can walk a 100 miles in 2 months... after those two months go jog and let me know howit feels. walking does not get theheart rape up enough in order to add wind... it will make you loose fat , but not wind
     
  4. benthere

    benthere CH Dog Staff Member

    I know one of the guys who used to walk Crenshaw's dogs for him. He would walk to the park, sit down have a smoke and hang out with the dog for a couple hours and then walk back.
     
  5. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    maybe the keep was used when Jcshaw still did the walking?
     
  6. Oldskool Brent

    Oldskool Brent Top Dog


    lol, classic:D
     
  7. Yardboy

    Yardboy CH Dog

    I thought the intention of walking was more to get the dog to empty than to excercise.
     
  8. oldslowblue

    oldslowblue Big Dog

    walking/road keep.... more than to just empty out
     
  9. Yardboy

    Yardboy CH Dog

    No flirt/springpole?????
     
  10. pit4ever

    pit4ever Banned

    did anyone actually used this ??
     
  11. Bxpits

    Bxpits CH Dog

    its not required for a keep

    yes i know a guy that did well with the keep, i myself have only done the walking part of this keep with good result
     
  12. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    hand walking is building muscles . mill work is building wind .
     
  13. wardogkennels

    wardogkennels Top Dog

    Hand walking is to empty out, warm up the muscle, and to cool the dog down. Mill work strengthens muscles, increases endurance, and can over work your dog if done wrong:dogtongue:
     
  14. wreck1

    wreck1 Pup

    sould get up 2 at lest 2hr mill,or add something else to get the hart rate up. but that is just me
     
  15. Bxpits

    Bxpits CH Dog

    if you have a hard puller handwalking for 2 hours does the same thing in my experience.
    handwalking should not be done by itself though and some other type of exercise should be added something that involves sprints. the combination of handwalking and mill work has been proven for many decades.
     
  16. pit4ever

    pit4ever Banned

    yes i know a guy that did well with the keep, i myself have only done the walking part of this keep with good result[/QUOTE]

    thanks . so while you walking a dog , thats the time to empty out the dog ?? how about after meal ?
     
  17. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    you can condition muscles by handwalking BUT i wouldn't rely on that, you wanna get that heart rate in the target heart rate
     
  18. Boy-boy 416

    Boy-boy 416 Big Dog

    Lol i did the same thing when in was younger
     
  19. Yardboy

    Yardboy CH Dog

    I couldn't see doing a keep without some bite work involved to strengthen the neck and jaws. Also a good bit of flirt work to help with changing direction and shifting weight. A keep just doesn't seem complete without these types of exercises included.
     
  20. Mr. Brownstone

    Mr. Brownstone Big Dog

    Target heart rate makes all the sense in the world to me. If you dont train this then you will be a fish outa water when you do hit it. As far as too much walking well i dont know i guess in a way you could have a point. However i was a pro cyclist and i worked very hard to be as strong as i possible could given the body i was born with. I did this with a combo of long steady endurance rides and interval training. Dif times of the year only endurance other time just a easy pace and other times endurance rides and interval work in the same ride, and other times just race and recover. My point is a average ride in prep for race seasons would be about 125 miles and about 4-5 hours with maybe 2-3 hours of interval work mixed in so that would be about 2-3 hours of eating away at the muscle i had just worked so hard to build. Plus one day a week 6-7 hours and over 150 miles and this is six days a week with a rest day that still consisted of a two hour ride. I dont think in all cases to much cardio is counter productive as in many sports wind is worth as much as muscle, at least a happy combo is best. If you work 4-5 hours a day like the keep above you sure as shit are gonna be strong as an ox when all said and done if you went slow to start and then followed through with every work out everyday. You might not look strong but i promise 5 hours a day of exercise and proper rest and you will be a work horse!!! Imop the pit bull is a endurance athlete by nature more than it is a big strong animal, its strength i think is its second asset next to its will to never give up and to me that is endurance in its purest form. This is why i love the breed so much. They are little fucking work horses full of heart....it take serious heart and commitment to train like that for a human never mind a dog!!
     

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