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College Football

Discussion in 'Sports & Activities' started by pit boss, Sep 15, 2012.

  1. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    TAM vs Clemson this weekend is interesting but I dont think TAM is on Clemson level right now.Be close for the first half.Georgia vs South Carolina should be a good one.
     
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  2. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    When you watch Tua he throws recievers open.First TD pass the defender had his back turned but the receiver didn't.He just lofts it to give his receiver a shot and it worked ,threw it away from the defender.
     
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  3. slim12

    slim12 CH Dog Staff Member

    I agree.

    Tua can throw to that open spot and I think he processes information as fast as any college QB I have seen. He makes all the throws. I still think he got lucky on the one he winged into the endzone.

    I'm wondering if Saban will sign off on the transfer to Auburn next year, and then will have to see him in the Iron Bowl?

    S
     
  4. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    Jalen will graduate this year.I could really see him at Florida under Mullen .TUA little brother Talia will be at Bama next year to.Same type of ability it right handed.
     
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  5. slim12

    slim12 CH Dog Staff Member

    I watched some video of him recently. He my have a stronger arm and I read he may be more mobile....
    Florida may be a better fit. I did not realize he will graduate early. That frees him up for a graduate run at another program.

    That is a rule change that needs to change as well. Once the kids graduate early they should not need a sign off from the coach in order to pursue his life elsewhere. The kid that came from Pittsburgh to Carolina this past year had to jump thru hoops (no pun intended) in order to enroll in the place of his choice. Just venting.

    S
     
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  6. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    I agree.Yes I think IMO Jalen is a QB type that Mullins could work with especially when you look at the type he had success with in the past.
     
  7. slim12

    slim12 CH Dog Staff Member

    My son, who has the reckless abandon of youth going for him, has had a really good year predicting college football.

    Yesterday he called Oklahoma over Alabama in a shocker.

    His thought process: Alabama's offense has been the story all year and the defense has gotten little credit yet it is one of the better groups Saban has fielded. Across the board the defense is as fast if not faster than any unit under Saban. They fly to the ball. There LB corp may not be as deep in recent years top to bottom/inside to out.

    Fast defenses normally struggle with mobile QB's, and especially mobile QB's with a lot of speed at the wide out spots. Plus, OU can run the ball.

    I can see his points but I took Bama and hope to get some of my money back.

    It's game day.

    S
     
  8. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    I actually think Jalen Hurts may get the start today.I dont think Tua is quite ready but may get playing time.Its easy to reagrivate a high ankle sprain.Slim your son may be right and then again you may be right.We shall see .I got some close blood playing in the Clemson vs Notre Dame game so I have quite a bit of interest in both the big games today.Gone watch a little Michigan vs Florida to get the day started.
     
  9. slim12

    slim12 CH Dog Staff Member

    I guess it went as expected.

    After spotting 28 points Oklahoma did more than I expected.

    Alabama got sloppy with penalties that helped OU a lot.

    I though Bama's offensive coordinator threw a really good game. Once they staked the lead they pounded the ball on the ground. As soon as the corners and safeties inched up Tua killed them with the slant routes.

    I've been a Clemson and Notre Dame fan since I was a kid so it was cool seeing my two favorites playing in a game that big (and sucked too)

    My heart is calling Clemson but my head sayd Bama is too much but still its Go Tigers!

    S
     
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  11. slim12

    slim12 CH Dog Staff Member

    There is a reason I work rotating shift work and not coach football for a living.

    If I am seeing Jacobs, and both Harris' kids gash a defense I would tell my QB that if he lifted the ball past his shoulder pad he would ride the pine forever. I'd put the kid out of the front row to hand the ball off. Just saying.

    Congrats to Clemson and Tiger nation.

    S
     
  12. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    Yea to much coaching turn over for Bama the few years.Loss of Pruitt last year and a bunch of D talent finally caught up with them .Be some changes at Bama I'd bet Saban turn it around but congrats to Clemson.
     
  13. slim12

    slim12 CH Dog Staff Member

    Agreed.

    I said a few years ago Bama would fall victim to its own success. The Saban coaching family tree has grown faster than the program can keep up.

    Saban will go down as the greatest ever. But I think when he is behind, or being outplayed he then becomes the greatest recruiter of all time not so much the coach.

    My other analogy is that Saban just rolls out all that talent and all those 5 star recruits and uses it as a penis check. This is what we are going to do, come hell or high water. Last night if the coaching staff had 'admitted' that Venable had their number and Tua was not going to be the answer. If they had ran the ball and played a safety over the guys on the outside it would have been different. Clemson could have still won the game but it would not have been complete domination.

    I would have never predicted a 28 point loss for the Tide. But I think Alabama had 17 plays inside the 20-25 and managed only 3 points.

    For that to happen, I would have to win the Power Ball on back to back draws.

    With the two programs where they are at I would think we are setting up Round 5 next year.

    Another great college football season and I am missing it already.

    S
     
  14. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    Play calling in the red zone was terrible Slim imo .Played 2 true freshman in the secondary and lost a lot of talent from the year before .Bama did not play well either.The team was so pissed off that Tua didn't win the Heisman they was totally focused on OKLAHOMA .and that was thier national title game.Another thought is Clemson pit very little prep into the Notre Dame game if any at all.Bama did have to prepare for Oklahoma.Clemson was just better prepared .Either way I still think Clemson would have Got it done.
     
  15. slim12

    slim12 CH Dog Staff Member

    Agreed.

    I am a Clemson and Notre Dame fan first and foremost, but I did pick Alabama last night. Even with that pick I would have not been surprised if Clemson pulled it out.

    I never seen the dragging that happened.

    I think what Venable put together may be one the best, if not the best defensive coaching/prep jobs in the history of sports. I know Tua said he was not confused by the defense but he sure looked like it. Between the constant pressure up the middle and the schemes changing at the line/on the snap Tua was not prepared/ready.

    I agree the Hesiman let down and the difference in preparing for Oklahoma vs. Notre Dame played a factor.

    Maybe my biggest surprise of the night was the Clemson offensive line. They absolutely dominated the Bama front, especially in the pass game. Lawrence was pressured a few times but never to the point it affected him throwing the ball. His misses were simple over throws, not pressure related misses.

    It is an age old argument, especially with the pass happy era we are in right now, if you run the ball and play defense you will win a large percentage of the time. Clemson's defense out classed the Bama offense. The Clemson offense, although they did not run the ball exceptionally well, they threw the ball from formations that they had previously ran from and they did so from side line to side line. On every snap it looked like three or four Alabama defenders, especially the back seven, would step in one direction and then have to adjust. That is preparation and that is where the Tiger staff outclassed the Bama staff.

    Forget expanding the the playoffs, let'em go 2 out of 3!. LOL

    S
     
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  16. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    Ok I'm gone give you my opinion why Bama lost by 28 Slim..Saban does not want this 8 team playoff, wants no part of it.Fans across the country saying Notre Dame didnt belong in the playoffs so this feeds into the steam that's building for a 8 team playoff.So what does Saban have to do to quiet things down ? He has to lose to Clemson as bad or worse than Notre Dame did.I know you dont believe it .I been watching Saban a long long time .Najee Harris running wild on Clemson in the first half and we get to the 2 and he pulls Najee out and puts Damien in lol.Come on now.The fake FG hr uses one of the slowest guys on the team as the runner lol..I'm sorry but I just didnt buy it.Not only is he slow but this is 4th and long lol I know Bama got better plays than that.Other things that catches my eye that was un Saban like.I saw him do the same against Auburrn year before,threw the game because all his linebackers was hurt and he couldnt beat Georgia in the SEC title game and the loss would have eliminated Bama from the playoffs.He threw this game IMO.Doesn't want the 8 tram playoff .If we all come to the conclusion that Notre Dame didn't belong then it feeds into the hands of going to a 8 team playoff.He had to lose as bad as Notre Dame did to try and shut folks up.
     
  17. slim12

    slim12 CH Dog Staff Member

    It's a stretch, and I am not sure I can go that far, but I can see the thought process/theory in that thinking.

    I'm not for the 8 game play off but I am more for a lifelong appointment to the selection committee (former coaches and athletic directors) for some sort of consistency in the selection processes. As a Notre Dame fan I am glad they were in, but I think Georgia was a better team than the Irish or Oklahoma.

    Ohio State got in with one committee after losing to Penn State head to head yet they jumped them as the 'best four claim'. I can see where Saban would not want to see Georgia twice a year and with an 8 team run that would have happened. The 8 team run would be more brutal than the SEC regular season.

    As for the kids with a chance at the title there season would be 16-17 games. And the first thought would be to drop some early cup cake games but a lot of smaller schools depend on that money from playing the Bama's of the world.

    I can see where Saban would be against the expansion. I'm not a fan of it at all.

    As far as the theory of dumping the Clemson game, it is a real stretch. The Auburn game I can see as that is more along the line of resting players when you already know in you are in the play offs. No need to get beat up twice going in and then have to play the two of the top four teams in the country.

    Maybe Saban also knows where Hoffa lies as well? LOL

    S
     
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  18. corvettedex

    corvettedex CH Dog Premium Member

    I'm a UT fan at heart Tennessee volunteers hadn't been worth a s*** in years. But I do pull for Clemson when they're not playing Tennessee and also for the gamecocks my wife's a big Carolina fan. But I have a lot of respect for dabo the head coach at Clemson. the first thing he told Coach Sabon when they met in the field after the game was see you again next year. He said coach saban was very gracious. It was really just Clemson's night. Alabama set records it'll probably never be broken, but as far as a dynasty goes dabo Swinney said Clemson's a long ways away from a dynasty. I like call dabo talks about where these young men are going to be at 10 years from now, and he always gives God the credit and the glory.. but there's no doubt in my mind that we will see Alabama Clemson next year again for the national championship .
     
  19. corvettedex

    corvettedex CH Dog Premium Member

    Don't want to leave out the Georgia Bulldogs... They're a great team too
     
  20. corvettedex

    corvettedex CH Dog Premium Member

    bama we go back a long ways and I have a lot of respect for you, but I disagree with this. I just think Clemson just outplayed Alabama. And they just beat Notre Dame down, really they beat everybody down. But Alabama is always going to be there. the first thing dabo Swinney said the Nick saban when they met in the field after the game was see you again next year. I think Clemson's underrated and has been all year. Coach saban would never throw a game
     

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