Carver's BobTale

November 1981. Sire to Robert T when bred to Ethyl ( Snapper x Meanie) and sire to BullRat when bred to Liz ( Bull x Josie)

 

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seems people have had problems with their picture staying up,,, I think theres a thread on it and I hope it gets fixed soon as its very nice of bobm and others to share pictures with us and too bad we cant see them,,, I hope you try again when its fixed bobm...

 

Very nice. I was at Raymond's house picking up a daughter of Redneck the night he used his Adapt dog to go into Robert T. Robert was ahead from the very first second and made it look easy. Raymond was shocked that his dog got whooped and Sharon was steady in Raymond's ass after it was over. There were two small bitches used that same night that were very nice, I can't remember the names but I think the winner was a bitch named Doobie and she was a very nice female.

 

Here is a link for Bob and his son....

Bob
The Pit Bull Bible Online APBT Database -

Bull Rat
The Pit Bull Bible Online APBT Database -

 

Thanks for sharing osage,,, that blood behind some greats indeed...
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [11692] :: K. ALLEN'S ROBERT T (9xW,1xL)

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [159061] :: SHOULDDA HAPPENED!!

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [80813] :: SCOTT'S MACHO-T-ROC

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [130263] :: THE OLD GAMBLER'S BROOD BITCH

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [39111] :: WINCHESTER'S BLACK JACK
the pedigree on bob tails ped is a bit different here,,, never the less mr bill had a nice one that really produced,,,
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [306775] :: CHAMPION WINCHESTER BLACK JACK JR. R.I.P

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [256831] :: STRONG ISLAND SPADE

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [307373] :: WINCHESTER'S BUCKSKIN JACK 2W R.I.P

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [375917] :: LO'S MARY JAY

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [371923] :: 2 GUYS SPIKE

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [416293] :: LO'S ACE

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [137740] :: GAMEDOGS INC'S & BROWN GRAVY FREEWAY

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [327759] :: <B> CH. SDB & CHK'S MR. CROC B.I.S (R.I.P)

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [312241] :: HUNTER MAN'S BLACK MAMBA 1W
what a beautiful black dog,,, very impressive...
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [503217] :: NO LIMIT TCC & SKB DBD'S OUTLAW
another fine fastlane specimen down off the freeway that traveled and stopped a frisco bred champion...
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [539701] :: GR CH OUTLAW X BLACK MAMBA
that looks like a fastlane freeway breeding worth waiting on the construction...
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [64450] :: <font color=00008B >T.V.K.'S RUSTY

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [142420] :: WILKERSON'S LONESOME

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [64461] :: <font color=191970>CAPITAL 1 KENNEL'S <font color=maroon>(TDK'S) <font color=191970>GEORGE

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [99405] :: <font color=191970>CAPITAL 1 KENNELS MISS MONEYPENNY

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [141358] :: CAPITAL 1 KENNEL HUEY PIANO 3XW & 1XLG

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [553432] :: R. HALL'S ZEUS

...sorry I have a bad case of the ped-o.c.d. syndrome,,, thanx for the fix...

 

Some of those pedigrees are wrong, I don't know who posted them. Starbelle aka Bellestar and Wilkerson's Jitterbug were littermates, both sired by Bullrat out of Little Liz. I owned both and bred both. Bullrat was by BobTale out of Big Liz(Peterson's,Merritt's, Koehler's, or Langston's Liz all the same bitch-Bull x Josie-). Little Liz was by Bad Company when he was bred to Liz, GiGi was not involved in these breedings at all, however she was sired by Bull to Josie(Bullyson x Miss Spike) not the pedigree listed in the Black Jack ped.
Big Liz, ch Noah, Clyde, Samantha, Gigi, Onionhead were all sired Koehler's Bull(Sorrell's) bred to Peterson's Josie.
A little history, one of the Mayfields c & h Starbelle and beat the first daughter of Chinaman to hit the Box with Mr Vin(my definition of top of the line class dogman).

 

Thanks for the follow up,,, can you please verify bob tales pedigree and also BC...

 

Maurice said many times to many people Bob Tale was Johnny Blue eyes x Fancy. He called Fancy as Carver's sometimes, and other times referred to her as his and Kern's Cracker/Black Widow bitch. Said he was spittin image of Cracker in actions and temperament. After Carver died his Ex Pat also confirmed him as double grandson of Dibo/Black Widow brothers bred back to mother(Black Widow) and aunt(Judy). I didn't care to chase ghosts because BobTale was so honest, I should have bred him more. He was bred several times before I got him, I only had Ethyl and Liz Litters. Out of Ethyl, Ken's Robert T and my Down and Dirty who died young. Liz had a cesaerian and Bullrat was the only pup out of that litter. Peds online has a lot of these pedigrees screwed up.
BC- Bad Company was by Noah(Bull x Josie) out of Annie(Bullyson x Miss Spike), Annies only pup that lived that litter, others got parvo. Peds online has him right some places but also has him out of his half brother Beau Jean x Meanie, wrong. BeauJean x Meanie produced Mr Bad, Scrapper, Meaness, Pepper, and the original Spice, a great all game litter. BeauJean was BC's half brother sired by Ch Tuffy(gr ch Hopes brother-Tombstone x ch
Catfish) bred to Annie. He was bred to Meanie who was sired by Henry(Tater x Faith) out of Pretty Girl(Bolio x Faith). After ch Noah died, we tried to breed Annie to Koehler's Bull(sorrell's) but he was missing then, Next time we tried to breed to Noah's brother, Peterson's Clyde, But she wouldn't cycle right by then.

 

Nice to have a first hand account on some interesting history and pedigrees,,,
I
m sure that a good percentage of the peds online are misleading and its nice for the owners perceptive...

Anytime you wanna share some old history,,, we are all ears and enjoy the stories,,, thanks...

Any take on the bottem of juniors real ped???
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [98333] :: PERFORMANCE INC.'S JUNIOR
performance incs as cowgirl...
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [228074] :: STOPLER'S JUNIOR
or Billys version as froggy...

 

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [23966] :: MERRITT'S BAD COMPANY

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [11691] :: CARVER'S BOBTAIL

Does anyone know if Maurice Carvers ex Pat is still alive???

 

So Bob Samantha's from Bull bred to Peterson's Josie ? How was Josie bred ?

 

Josie was Bullyson x Miss Spike

 

Do you know how Flores's Dusty was bred Bob ?

 

Pat Carver died on May 13th, 1986.

 

Noah
The Pit Bull Bible Online APBT Database -

Ch. Bad Company
The Pit Bull Bible Online APBT Database -

 

No, not sure but believed Dusty to be a Creel/Carver breeding

 

Thanks Bob . If you find out would you let me know ?

 

both of these are the correct breedings, BobTale by Carver, Stephens, and Mr Jolly's words verified on separate occassions, but all I really know is BobTale was a true bulldog and a great but underutilized producer.
ch Bad Company is right because I owned the parents and made the breeding and whelped the pup myself, no one else, He never left my self his whole life.
I hate that people always want more than the simple truth.

 

Froggy, or as performance dinc called her Cowgirl, was by the Bonz bred Jessie. The original Jessie (Snapper x Meanie) was long dead many years by that time. Billy was too deep in his drugs at that time to know the difference or confused the Bonz bred Jessie with Spice's mother. He knew the right breeding, hell he had a brother to Froggy I gave him that he couldn't remember where he went or several other dogs I loaned him, lol.
Both Jessies were good game gyps, but years apart. the original Jessie was a sister to Ethyl and the mother to the second Spice. The original Spice was a half sister to Ethyl. Ron P had the other sister to Froggy, Candy. The other pups went to Cut's buddy in the North east.