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carpet mill help

Discussion in 'Products & Equipment' started by CesarT, Jul 29, 2016.

  1. CesarT

    CesarT Pup

    In the process of building a carpet mill and was wondering what you guys used for the rollers. I see most use pvc and landscaping timber for the inner diameter. I was wanting to use pvc with a roller blade wheel inside but hard to find anything to match up to leave a small press fit. Any tips?
     
  2. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Lots of variations. I have tried most of them.

    If you are set on PVC pipe you can use a hole saw and cut wood blanks to fit the pipe. The use a 5/8th" forstener bit and center drill the hole. A roller blade wheel bearing will fit in that hole. Once the 5/8 hole is set, re-drill the axle hole to 3/8". The 5/16" axle (and roller assembly) will free spin on the bearing.

    I do the same as above but I use two hole saws, and mate the two blanks together with a bearing inserted. The slat them together to make the width/running surface.

    E-Z-P-Z

    S
     
  3. CesarT

    CesarT Pup

    Not dead set on pvc just been seeing that's what most use. I imagine you could use conveyor rollers but don't have near me at my disposal. Thanks for the tips! What do you use for an axle?
     
  4. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    5/16" steel rod which fits the 8mm roller blade bearings.

    S
     
  5. CesarT

    CesarT Pup

    Ok guys I'm getting closer on finishing this carpet mill just need carpet now. I have indoor/outdoor carpet with no backing I picked up at lowes but I also noticed they have some kind of rubber belt that could be used but have no idea how one would connect it. It looks to be the exact same belt that the grand carpet mill uses. Anyone have an idea how to fuse the belt together?
     
  6. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    At Lowe's buy the runner carpet. It comes in 27" width and cut to length. You cut it to width of your mill. Flip it upside down and let the dog run on the bottom side. The top side will travel much better. It will be way free to the point I now double layer mine to get the mill movement I like.

    Best of luck.

    S
     
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  7. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    Good points, slim. I need to try to make one soon.
     
  8. CesarT

    CesarT Pup

    Thanks slim! They were out of some carpet when I went Last time but will go back again Friday. Does the bottom side have a rubber backing?
     
  9. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Slight backing at best. A number of years ago it was a lot better option. When gas prices jumped to near $4 a lot of companies that use petroleum based products went cheap/bo-bo. The runner carpet people went cheap with their backing. It is now slightly less than 1/2 of what is used to be. It is a really free mill with one layer and a solid turning mill with it double layered.

    S
     
  10. CesarT

    CesarT Pup

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    Here's what I have so far!
     
  11. stinkrock

    stinkrock Top Dog

    Looking good CesarT
     
  12. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    That is about all you need. Go to Stockcarproducts.com or Summit racing. They sell a sheet plastic by the 10ft roll. 24" wide. Cut it to fit. The sliding surface will last forever. Clean the surface with Armor All once every three or four months. Slide like glass.

    S
     
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  13. CesarT

    CesarT Pup

    I grabbed A sheet of 1/8th inch thick dry eraser board from loses that I haven't put on yet. I was going to use loc tite power grab construction adhesive to athatch it to the mdf board. Thanks tip slim about the rolled plastic!
     
  14. CesarT

    CesarT Pup

    Lowes*
     
  15. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    That dry erase board may work. I'm thinking it may wear off in the pattern of the dogs stepping. I may be wrong. In time I am thinking there will be two streaks down the erase board. Hope it works.

    S
     
  16. CesarT

    CesarT Pup

    I went to both Lowe's and neither had the runner carpet but home Depot had it with the rubber backing so opted for that. Will post up pics and vid later today.
     
  17. sweetscience

    sweetscience Big Dog

    Cesar t ... cant wait to see your mill completed! If you can, post a vid of it in use. I admire you handy guys that can build useful,.functional mills. Best of luck !
     
  18. CesarT

    CesarT Pup

    Had to remove those brackets and redoing the sides of the frame and putting a bolt slot in there. Probably redo a couple of other things as well. I know slim has used cement glue to seam the carpet together but is there another way where you don't have to overlap the carpet? I've seen some guys use conveyor belt fasteners to connect the ends and heard of a zipper too?
     
  19. CesarT

    CesarT Pup

    Used carpet tape on both sides and across the top but ended up stretching apart. Carpet kept rubbing on those brackets is why I'm removing them and just putting a slot in the side of the frame
     
  20. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    I tried a lot of different methods over the years. I even used carpet seaming tape and a hot glue gun. I used a zipper from a conveyor belt as well. I even had one sewn together, slid it over the rollers and completed the side rail from there.

    The carpet tape eventually came apart. I think the pull as it came over the rollers is why it did not work. The zipper held for awhile but in time became a drag coming over the roller. If my rollers were solid, like yours, the zipper may have fared better. The sewn together one worked better than the tape and the zipper but had no longevity. The threads wore down and eventually it came apart.

    3M contact cement has never given up on me. I overlap about an inch and a half. I spread it liberally on bith sides, wait for it to get tacky, press them together with two piece of 1X4 and brad nail them together. I allow them to dry over night. Never an issue.

    Just looking at the picture on the side rails if you bevel/round the edges of the 2X4's on the ends there will be less drag. The back of yours will not be as bad as the roller is inset. The front one could be an issue as the carpet has to come by the open end of the 2X4. My rollers are both inset but I use runner guides on the surface where as your side rails provide the guide.

    There is always some side to side movement and that front edge will fray the sides of your carpet/belt.

    Looks good. Working a dog is all about what works for working a dog. Way more simple than most would like to make it.

    S
     

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