C. & C.'s CH Sony from Holland ?

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I belive Teo Hensen had the howard heizle dogs, we iven had Dogs direckly from john Fonseca(do a history chek). Vagabond in those days these dogs that were send over where margina nice roll dogs but had a lack of. due to the outstanding quality the rest was. dont forget that in a country that take 4 hours to drive tru there where 45 kennels al with diferend top bloodlines from the best breeders and dogman in the history of the american pit bull terrier. famelies and bloodlines that would never meat up in the usa due to the vastness of the country would meat overhere. can you imagen the quality that was around here.
i dear to say that for a momend in time the hardest com at that time in the world was in that small county!!.

today these dogs that where disreguarded as nice roll dogs would be a lot beter then what walks around these days.
So you need to see it in perspectif!!. there where dogs i disreguarde as crap back then as wel, witch i would hapely breed to today !!!.
dont forget we where not born with bulldog wisdom, as you know that takes forever and we never know it al!!. we keep learning!!.
Today there is no comp overhere at al it all shifted to the former eastern countries and to the soudern tip of europe where the oranges come from..
al the nolige from the old timers have been lost, with the ecseption of a couple myself included(retired) the new generation of people with dogs have absolutly no cleu what so ever. dogs with no peds are bred and sold people have local regesterd dogs and pups, they dont know jack about what kind of famely ore bloodline they have . some idiots practise a groop walk about with there dogs loos no leas( disasters are about to happend) anyway im wondering of. yesterday i forgo to mention country boys lilly stil got picture of that girl she was a daughter of loposays buster.

 

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Have read the Interview with Boban that has been made back then occassionally, I don´t know much about them Vili dogs but as Zinetti is totally sold on them they should be some serious stuff. As for Thor I like his looks, a beautiful dog..... Wasn´t there a breeding with GBK Ciquita to DUK ???? how about them????? So I do think Country Boys could work outcrossed and with proper selection. Brisco was mentioned by a friend of mine to me as we talked dogs.
As we haven´t had a focus on the recent dogs, I´m like a old guy with lots of leaks in his brain, means I forgot more then some ever wanted to know (lol)!
See I do believe that many peds are to be considered shady as some people even have no interest in letting you know what they really did! I do remember the story about Crnooki, wether was it Gipsy or Jumbo as they bred Lola to both dogs at Dragan´s Yard back then....... So it shouldn´t bother anyone either as the rest is history and practically the ped would be the same just changing the sires name.

 

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Hell, have they been serious about this add???????
Wished you where nearby I would have invited you to a bbq and some beer talking dogs!
As for the olden day, what would have been happened to the breed in europe without the hard work the NL people put into the dogs???????
Back in the 80ties and early 90ties solid bred dogs have been rare over here! But walking through Rotterdam you almost fell over a Pitbull by every step you take!!!!!
Unfortunately almost everything is down, concerning serious breedings!!!!!
All what left is that Blueline or its an original Rednose for sure I swear shit!!!!!!
Sad to see this beautiful breed got almost extinct in europe!!!!!!

 

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So whats for dinner on the BBQ then........

 

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Yes, I understand what you want to say about Jumbo or Gypsy question... Anyway, those Bijeljina Boys dogs looked like typical Jumbo dogs. Gypsy and Jumbo were littermates, but produced different type of dogs, so everybody here think those dogs were out of Jumbo.
Regarding Snooty-Yu and his dogs, his yard is based on Mirza's Bugzy (Thor x Spanky), Wood's Sony, Frisco ROM and recently CH El Negro ROM. And crosses between them. These dogs work, believe me...
When I said that pure were not good enough for top level, I was thinking about some old breedings in my country based only on dogs from Thor/Spanky litter. But they were good for crosses...
As for the Vili dogs, the source of this blood is Davor, breeder and owner of Vili ROM. I think this dog is his main producer now
http://pedigree.pitbullworld.org/pedigree.pl?command=pedigree&id=19953
I think Mak Kennel from Croatia has some from this blood too, based on their CH Muper...

 

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LOL! As we have a big BBQ the Friday before the easter days, there will mostly be beef, pork, and all kind of meat and damn good music all the way along with couple of gallons of the best regional beer available!

 

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See I heard Gus had been a real good one but.......
Why so much of bonnie???? As I heard she was pretty cold aswell as Ria was somehow crippled by patella luxation due to genetical matters?

Haven´t South Kennels had two pups of this breeding that have been almost unable to walk?

See I don´t say that they won´t turn out good but when I hear of genetically transmitted defects or overly used cold dogs within a ped I´m suspicious!
That means if you´ll get some out of a cold dog then your a lucky one but why not avoiding this dog in future breedings?

You could get some good stuff even out of a cur dog, Milan´s Ch. Muggy is a fine example to that as his sire escaped the crushing grandfather Yankee within 3 Minutes!

One further Question I read some report about Postar´s Ch. Alli that had beaten a dog called Pasa´s Toka! I only know of one Kennel that called himself Pasa, just wondering if this would be the guy that comes to my mind if we are talking about Pasa Kennels (if anyone could answer that please only via PM).

Another Question, especially to the ones that are in the game for some time now.
How about the health of some heavily inbred dogs?????
Any genetical fallouts known within some lines if bred too tight or inbred?

 

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Here you go finnaly got the picture today.
send to me bij STB .
the daddy of the two pups send to yougoslavia known as thor and spanky who where supost to be out of little big man..aka Ventje. there real daddy(picture) was a son of rebel kennels grch Sandman.. the picture is from the side but he hase a white chinn (barly viseble)and a white marking(spot) just behind the nose.. knowing this plus the fact that Little big man was out of morgan charly exsplains why these dogs look and perform as good as they where.
As stated befor the tight bred Country boy dogs based on Snooty where ugly crooked dogs with less then zero confermation bat ears donky back,s..
Hope the people who have those dogs can ad this to there history and there peds..
Picture taken in the outskirts of Amsterdam

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PPPFF Old goat get a life!!!!!!!!.....

 

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to me it sounds like someone is trying to make there blood look good . and it was . but that's not the proving ground . and if you think that there was more action there than in north or south america your dreaming .

 

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country boy 's little big man (ventje ) picked vs keystone's japi (otc)

 

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only you did it better with candy ch in 24 hours hahahah

 

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yes it wasa nick name .......oto was a comic very populair in the orth of germany

 

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this is what alligators owner from the continent Always said when they ducked lol

 

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mister nobody rocky was a fear biter

 

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right him a stb from holland .. they just change if it fits better lol
thank you agk that you pointed out i had to do better my best to learn the laugauch

 

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the ped//////specialy stb

 

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....behind the skip at the super-market...was it...key...lol....lol...

 

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is it important where it was ?


van herpen's punk(janssen's spike) quit vs keystone's japi
13 minute's ..japi pushing 10 pounds hahahah this was in the supermarket bleu