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Breeding to a steroid champ...????

Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by BLUE8BULL, Jul 6, 2014.

  1. Dam1985

    Dam1985 Banned

    Exactly, steroids are some serious shit and are certainly a benefit if used correctly. It may not make a dog gamer but it will almost certainly help a dogs performance to a stage where it's gameness might not be tested like it would be without.
     
  2. PlugUgly

    PlugUgly Big Dog

    Also, to answer the original question.... If I knew that when ever he was put to the test he was on the gas, No I would not. Even though I know it does not affect production. I wouldn't think I had a good account of actual abilities.
     
  3. the.peon

    the.peon Top Dog

    All steroids can't be lumped into one group...many different kinds do many different things.
     
  4. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua

    So are you saying steroids work differently on dogs? It does not matter if steroids are stronger then other supplements its still a SUPPLEMENT, what part of that dont you get?
     
  5. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua

    Can you tell me EXACTLY how long it took for your cousin to transform into a weakling into a muscle bound monster in a relative short time?
     
  6. Dam1985

    Dam1985 Banned

    I'm talking a matter of a few months, put it this way he reached that physique in a time space that would take years for somebody to do it naturally.
     
  7. BLUE8BULL

    BLUE8BULL CH Dog

    ..it's gameness would not be tested...would it be a game dog to you then if it's gameness was never brought to in to Qing...???
     
  8. Dam1985

    Dam1985 Banned


    Key Difference: Steroids are fat-soluble organic compounds that are naturally present and produced in the human body. These are responsible for a wide range of physiological development such as reproductive growth, tissue regeneration, and caloric synthesis in the human body. Supplements, also known as dietary supplement, food supplement, nutritional supplements, are pills or powders that are developed in order to provide nutrients, such as vitamins, minerals, fiber, fatty acids, or amino acids, that a person may be missing during their daily diet.
     
  9. Dam1985

    Dam1985 Banned

    Would any dog, on steroids or not be a gamedog if it's gameness was never brought to question??
     
  10. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua

    What do steroids do by themeselves if you dont work out? Do you think if you just took steroids but did nothing all day and night long but play video games on the couch that steroids will change that person from a out of shape person to a physical in shape specimen?

    Actually the test results of steroids on animals is way more accurate then testing it on humans for the mere fact that animals dont need a placebo test as humans are the only ones smart enough to fool themselves when taking any types of supplement hence the term mind over matter a animal on the other hand cannot comprehend it hence why the results are more accurate.

    The most credibility is those that have experienced it first hand.

    Conclusion, if steroids were more then just a supplement then every living creature on steroids should be able to win over those NOT on steroids BUT that is just not the case or reality as there have been plenty of humans or animals on steroids that lose to those NOT on steroids.
     
  11. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua

    Years to do it naturally? You aint seen those infomercials late at night were a fat or skinny person in three to four months gets transformed into a ripped muscular person? Its all about HARD WORK and mind over matter.
     
  12. Dam1985

    Dam1985 Banned

    Well if you believe they do all that without PED's then you'll believe anything I'm afraid.
     
  13. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua

    So dogs bodies dont naturally produce fat soluble organic compounds? So are you saying all human made supplements only work on humans and not animals??? Come on man LMAO
     
  14. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua

    That is just one example as there are many people that are dedicated enough to transform there bodies in a relatively short order if they work there ass off, its been DONE many many times from many many people.
     
  15. Dam1985

    Dam1985 Banned

    Stop being a dumbass, you know what I meant. Train naturally with as many supplements you like or train taking steroids, we both know who will be much bigger and stronger after a few months.

    If they are not massively beneficial then why are the majority of race horses given them?? Don't tell me they are smart enough to fool themselves too??

    And let's make it simple, steroids would make a great creature or human even better but of course you have to have something to begin with of course.
     
  16. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua

    Its you who is the dumbass since your so ignorant LOL. No we wont know for sure who will be stronger after a few months because like I said before steroids is not a sure thing as there are other factors that play into it.

    If they were MASSIVELY beneficial then all horses on it should win against horses not on it but that once again is NOT the case. You just dont seem to get it through that think skull of yours LOL. No animals cant fool themselves only humans can LOL.

    Once again any type of supplement can increase performance to a degree but no supplement is a sure thing when it comes to winning. Now is that simple enough for you to comprehend Dam1985?
     
  17. TDK

    TDK CH Dog Staff Member

    Anyone who's been around longer than 90 seconds would be checking a dog for gameness in it's natural state unless the dog had to show it in his competition. It doesn't matter what happened in competition if he or she wins handily. You want a game dog to breed, you do what it takes to see, and you do that on the natch. You don't see gameness on top.....so why would you judge a dog's gameness by his or her winning on ability?

    If a 'roided dog shows gameness in competition, and since 'roids have no bearing on gameness, then what difference would it make if he or she was 'roided or not? If you need to see if it is game on your own, see it in the dog's natural state other than in match competition. It's then that you WANT the dog to have no advantage.

    Things are a lot simpler than being made out here.
     
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  18. TDK

    TDK CH Dog Staff Member

    BTW, supplementation means additive. It doesn't matter WHAT is added to the dog as something we hope to be a form of enhancement.......it's still supplementation to what is normally given. Semantics. The fact that steroids work and in what capacity has nothing to do with that.
     
  19. Dam1985

    Dam1985 Banned

    Ok I'll make it simple so you can digest it..... The reason my cousin went on juice is because he wasn't seeing enough games naturally taking supplements such as creatine. He goes on the juice and in a short few months he's made massive gains in muscle mass and in strength, now why is this???

    And how do you know that the horses that are winning are not on it?? Why did Lance Armstrong state it was "impossible to win the Tour De France without doping"???

    Let me make it simple, the same athlete is a better performer with steroids than he would be without.
     
  20. BLUE8BULL

    BLUE8BULL CH Dog

    ..thanks tdk..when i started this thread,,was trying to get that across...ya want to know it's naturaly game
     

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