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Breeding a male during keep

Discussion in 'APBT History' started by NGK, Oct 1, 2011.

  1. NGK

    NGK Top Dog

    Over the years I have heard alot of different opinions on this subject, I would love to hear some old stories as well as opinions and veiwpoints from educated men and women (preferably those with 1st hand experience) on this subject.

    NGK
     
  2. TripleJ

    TripleJ CH Dog

    Was that you that did that ? told ya dont sweat it every thing will be ok. Keep your head on you dog will feel you loose it.
     
  3. Bxpits

    Bxpits CH Dog

    as long as there is enough recovery time is what the oldtimers have said. dont do it late in the keep.
     
  4. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    they tested this theory and you could do it . i know someone close by that froze some 4 days before and it was just perfect . it brings up the testerone level . don't you feel some energy yourself ?
     
  5. I think it affects each dog differently, I wouldn't breed during a keep just to stay on the safe side, but if you done it already I won't worry about to much............
     
  6. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    did you ever see the show manswers ? they get doctors and scienctist to answer questions . 1 was will girls with big boobs float better . the answer was yes as long as they was'nt fake . then they asked it having sex the night before would hurt the athlete foot ball players or basketball . the answer was know . they are just trying to keep them in one place and not going out and maybe partying . but don't go breeding them everday .
     
  7. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    In my education and world of being a dogman umongst other dogman, you are considerd less then a amature when breeding a dog in a keep!!!!
     
  8. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    funny one again limey .
     
  9. hammer head

    hammer head Top Dog

    known folks to breed in a keep when their betting for the other side!
     
  10. NGK

    NGK Top Dog

    Thanks for the responses, a few different perspectives here for sure and I appreciate all input. I read an article in an old stories thread some time ago in which a male was bred previous to his match, I beleive it was for ch or better and in this story they said the male wasn't defending but was actually tring to mount the dog that was trying to dismantle him. I am going from memory here but I beleive it took 15 minutes for said male to realize he was in a fight, after those 15 he went on to do his thing and won. Again from memory I beleive this was a dog attached to Fat Bills breeding, possibly one of fat bills dogs, (correct me if im wrong).

    Does anyone have other historical match reports or stories about similiar situations, maybe a 1st hand story of a historical contest where this may have occured?

    Thanks in advance.

    NGK
     
  11. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    a dog aint mounting another because of breeding . if it took 15 minutes there was something else that did it . like what they used in the dog . this is'nt pre 1976 so why bother .
     
  12. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    without going into a pissing contest once again... In the pre times the best breeder conditioners had a yard that was divided into 3 diferend spots. one with ""older"" retired dogs used as brood stok containing males and female dogs together....
    one part only housed the yonger females, and another part only housed the males!!....... also special KEEP kennels and ore chain spots where NOT uncomen where dogs where dogs where being workt and where compleatly isolated from the other dogs in the yard!!.
    ..... in them days going into ""detailing"" getting the EDGE over the competition could and would mean the difernse .

    call it funny, i call it profesional!!!...
     
  13. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    so why did your buddy b/h do it many times . see the thing is we all do things different . me i never did it . but why should i tell someone what to do . it does'nt hurt them but it's not a practice to do .
     
  14. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    b/h who!!!!.
     
  15. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    your friend in texas .
     
  16. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    ok wel hes not my Buddy!!!!!!. and i have seen him met his watterloo from a gypsy who could not read nor write!!. but thats another story..
    it hase nothing to do with me nor what i stand, and that is claiming people are amaturs when doing so..
     
  17. doginhold

    doginhold Top Dog

    Limeys three yard way is a fine thing to do if you have enough room!

    See if he is worked hard he has to rest!

    If there´s a lot of going on arround him then he might not get relaxed enough and this could lower his performance.

    To me it depends a lot on the dog as you know some dogs are acting crazy if there´s a female in heat arround them and other don´t even mind it too much!

    For example I had a special room for stud dogs and they have been used to do their job there.

    So I had two males back then that headed straight into this room when someone came up with a female in heat!
     
  18. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    and i seen him meet it to . and yes it did'nt go so good for him in the yard . but is he a amature ? people do things for defferent reasons .
     
  19. NGK

    NGK Top Dog

    Heres a flip side to the coin, A male that is being bred during the keep may feel that he is fighting over the female and his want to fight may be increased by this want to procreate...

    I just got off the phone with a 87 year old man with more experience than we can all attest for, maybe combined and he just suggested what I have typed above.

    He told me 2 stories about this situation we are discussing and one situation worked to his advantage the other didn't so all and all I should have called him rather than post this thread.

    Thanks anyways fellas.

    NGK
     
  20. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    you don't think a dog knows the difference between a male and a female . when they go to humping they got something in the dog that's making him do it . not because he does'nt know what a male looks like . your friend is going by myths . it's not good to do it and me i don't know why it just seem wired . but history has passed use so why do we even care .
     

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