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Blue dogs

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by jack the lad, Feb 17, 2011.

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  1. jack the lad

    jack the lad Big Dog

    :confused:Apart from ch psycho as there ever been any [ ]winnig blue/white&blue dogs.Don't all go mad on me Im just wondering because there are less game bred blue dogs than any other colour so less are going to make it to the [].:dogkiss:
  2. jacko

    jacko CH Dog

    30 years ago in the uk ,i would have given a small fortune for a pure blue english stafford .not now theyre f...kin every where, dont quote me on this ,its strange how most "blues have a mastiff look about them ....jmo...
  3. Bullyson

    Bullyson CH Dog

    Blah... :rolleyes:
  4. Bullyson

    Bullyson CH Dog

  5. nobody

    nobody Banned

    LMAO about that pic
  6. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    Going Light Barney one that always comes to my mind.
  7. PIt4life

    PIt4life Banned

    Why does it matter? Blue is nothing more then the unusual outcome from a black dog taken to a black dog. Blue is diluted black and nothing more.

    Obviously when you take a blue to a blue dog you get nothing but blue or a even more diluted version of blue, lilac or whatever the selling name is for that color.
  8. Dreamer

    Dreamer Big Dog

    Because it is recessive, other colors can carry the dilute gene and you can get blues from a lot more than just black dogs. And if neither black parent carries dilution (or if just one does), they will never produce blue. Remember, dilution is not a "color" per se, it's just a gene at a different locus other than that which determines the black "color" and which ACTS on that black pigment to make it appear "blue".


    CBRSALT Big Dog

    2nd that. Seen a "blue" come outta two reds. Littermates included one black, a few reds, and a couple fawns. Question tho?- a lot of "blues" I see are a light "grey" color. The one that came out of the two red dogs is a dark charcoal grey color. He looks like a true dilluted black dog. Would he still be considered a "blue" or would you call him "grey"? When in the sunlight his coat doesnt have a bluish tint to him. Thoughts?
  10. Dreamer

    Dreamer Big Dog

    I've seen several shades of "blue" as well....I think it's just a quality of the extent of the dilution and of the black pigment that is being diluted and the way dilution acts on non-black pigment -- all combined! But yeah, I know what you mean -- I've seen blues get a very brown tinge to them at certain times of the year...


    CBRSALT Big Dog

    Yea I was gna mention the "brown part" cuz thats how he is at times. Got sidetracked before i could post it. Still trying to figure out what to call his color. :rolleyes:
  12. PIt4life

    PIt4life Banned

    The point is, its a coat color and nothing more. People love to exaggerate the whole blue dog thing. "Oh its blue must mean its a bully or mixed" its f'king stupid.
    I'm sure there were plenty of blue dogs way back when, but since photos were black and white, on top of the fact no man cared about the color of their dogs coat, I guess we will never know for sure!

    Show me this blue dog from two red dogs. It was probably diluted red, which is pretty much similar to lilac.
  13. PIt4life

    PIt4life Banned

    Lilac Color Explained
    This color is a variation of "d" genes that dilute black to blue, and in this case Lilac. Most times it is in combination with the "b" gene. Because Lilac colored dogs carry a double dose of "d" they are true dilutes. Lilac color is noticeably different than your typical blue. The coat will have a chocolate/brownish tint in combination with blue. Lilac dogs are born this color unlike blue fawn pups who typically lose the blue overtones of their coat as they mature, keep their lilac color. Lilac dogs have a self-colored nose that has the look of light (lavender) or dark (purple). It is a lighter/more washed out color than a blue dog's nose just as the coat color is.
    NOTE: when these dogs are color DNA'd, you will see the double dose combination of dilute "dd" AND most of the time at least one little "b", sometimes two. In rare cases there is no little b present. Lilac ALWAYS carries two little d's (dd) and either none, one, or two little b's. Note: there are 4 different shades of Lilac from light to darker.

    Blue Gene Explained
    What most people call the "Blue Gene" is actually a "Dilute Gene". This means that the gene Dilutes the original color. Blue dogs are no more than a black dog that has been diluted in color. If you imagine mixing a little bit of white paint into black paint, you will get a dark charcoal color. Mix a little more white & get the nice slate gray color that most people refer to as blue. In the Scientific Color Spectrum this dilution can have hundreds of different shades from the "dark charcoal" to "white" with a blue base. Yes, there is such a thing a a Blue White dog commonly referred to as a "Platinum". This is also how we get the Lilac color.

    Blue Tri

    Diluted Black-
    Blue & White with the Tan Pointed Pattern. This is the True Slate Gray Color that should be designated BLUE. The nose, eyeliner, and pads should be self colored(color of the hair). The eyes are often light gold, green, blue, or gray. According to geneticists, the charcoal color is genetically blue as well, and is discernable when the dog is against anything True Black or a black dog. The charcoal color also shines through when in the sun and is typically has a darker streak down the back.

    Lilac- Tri

    Lilac & White with the Tan Pointed Pattern. This is a True Lilac Color that should be evident. The nose, eyeliner, and pads should be self colored(color of the Lilac hair). The nose leather can be light or dark purple, not gray blue as in most blue dogs, yet not brown as in chocos. The eyes are often light gold, green, blue, or gray. According to geneticists, the Lilac color is genetically blue as well, and is discernable by the Purple Hue of the hair. The Lilac color also shines through when in the sun. In this photo, you can see the difference between the Lilac hair & the tan points. Some would say that this is no more than a chocolate color, but as you can see in this photo, the Lilac hair is quite a different color than this pups chocolate Mom underneath him.

    CBRSALT Big Dog


    CBRSALT Big Dog

    Top pics the sire. Then 3 pics of his "blue" pup at 6 mo old. Then a couple pics of his littermates. Pic of dame nursing. And another pic of littermates.
  16. PIt4life

    PIt4life Banned

    Ah, well you didn't mention that the sire is not red/red nose... makes sense now.

    CBRSALT Big Dog

    My bad. Watchn tv while typing. Not a multitasker.lol. So what would u call him? Blue, grey?
  18. venom

    venom Top Dog

    I think we've had enough threads about the blues.
    More than enough will come up with the search button from topics like this to threads that turned into something like this.
  19. Bullyson

    Bullyson CH Dog

    It will never stop. :rolleyes:

  20. nobody

    nobody Banned

    wich will have the most threads at the end of the year.
    TG or blue dogs ? :D
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