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Bitch Line is the Key

Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by Vicki, Apr 1, 2016.

  1. Vicki

    Vicki Administrator Staff Member

    Blog by Chic Choix


    The most important thing in dog breeding is the bitch line. What is a bitch line? This is something that is specially highly valuated is Northern European tradition. Many other breeders around the world do realize the value of females as well. However I would say that in Scandinavian countries in general most so. There are breeders who talk about dog by their fathers. Then there are the breeders who talk dogs by their mothers. When you see super dog. Do you first think who is the father or who is the mother? I think first the mother and then the sire. Which way do you think your dogs? We all know the genetic. Genotype is 50 % – 50%. However fenotype is not. Mother´s importance is much higher. Puppies do spent their first weeks with the mother therefore dam´s temperament and motherhood is the key. In a way many people can use top stud dogs. Only the best breeders can use top females. Bitch line is the key to high quality breeding.


    My point of view is all ways in females. Even if looking for top stud dogs to my females I try to find outstanding dogs whose mother´s have been top producers. As I look for a new brood bitch the key is how is her mother. Has she produced big, healthy and top quality litters before. If yes I am interested. Is she a champion? Is her mother and grandmother a champion? If yes I am very interested. Top brood bitch is a worth of gold. If there is generations of top brood bitches that is what I call a bitch line. Often these generation of top females has bred the same breeder. These dogs have the same type and style. The one that can build up a strong bitch line is some one I call and respect as a true breeder.


    More breeder´s should realize the value of a bitch line. Bitch line is something that you build up generation after generation. It is about top winning females with top temperament and vitality who are producing the same in future generations. Keep your eyes open. See where and who has the females in your breed that are producing the very best. I all ways keep my eyes open globally about bitch lines. Without a doubt that is one of the main reasons to my achievements in the world of pedigree dogs.


    Do you respect your females enough? Do you show and finish up your females? Do you take care of the fertility and vitality of your line? How about mentality? Do you keep the best daughter of your top females? If you are working or building up a bitch line you would answer yes to all these questions. I would say I rather use bit mediocre male whose mother is outstanding top winning female than a super dog whose mother is nothing. I can play roulette in a ferry boat. But I do not play roulette when it comes to a dog breeding. Bitch line thinking is like a method of approaching the dog breeding. I would say without a doubt that bitch line is the key to top quality dog breeding.


    Usually the breeders that I respect most have build their breeding on their strong bitch line. This is often the easiest way to build quality above average. As you mate the very best females with the very best males available – that will produce the best. It is really as simple as that. How to build a bitch line generation after generation is another story. Hope to write about the later. But do remember to build your breeding on strong brood bitches and do build up a bitch line. That is the key.


    Strong bitch lines usually do produce top quality males and females alike. It is about generation and generation of strong brood bitches that are the same type. That is what I call a bitch line. Multi BIS & BISS Int & Multi Ch Chic Choix Cleopatra Eurydice represent typical bitch line breeding.


    Bitch line is the key | Chic Choix
     
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  2. TROTLINE

    TROTLINE Top Dog

    I think this is very true, A strong gyp line breeding is WAY more then 50% of your program! I know there is a lot of debate but I have no problem breeding to A TIGHT breed cold gyp on A family I like! ALOT of great dogs and litters have been produced!
     
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  3. ziggy311

    ziggy311 Big Dog

    I agree with both statements about the bitch being the big factor. Because thru years of constantly trying new things no matter what bloodline I came across the end results were the same. A good bitch will make a better line.
    For what ever reasons there some folks have a problem with an experienced breeding using his own dogs as examples instead of showing what others has done.
    I continue & will always continue to only go by what I did & not what I heard or read about. For over 2 decades I have tried & used most of the families of dogs that can be found in any old Richard Stratton Book & allot that were never world famous but well known in there own areas. So the pedigrees I post are based on families that most of you salute all rolled up into a single family.
    And every generation the Female made the difference in the outcome. Now the reason I use to show these peds is not just to find a good female but how to "MAKE YOUR OWN FEMALE".
    Be it people who have known me since the 70's are though who just seen the name in a book, I always said the same thing for years about the female as the Story above.
    You can make a better female to fit your needs better than you can ever buy one. You can't by the dogs you want. You can by the dogs you like but the one you want has to be put together.
    Now a days I use either dogs with Redboy on bottom or Bolio on bottom. In the past decade I used Alligator on the bottom.
    Most will have Sorrells on top , really Boomerang on top of Sorrells, makes a difference, & a few will be with Browns Alligator dogs on top.
    But as many breeding's I have done the end results will be the same based on what's on bottom. Inbred ,line bred or crossed.
    The Red boy on bottom dogs are a certain way & the Bolio bottom is different. But because I don't breed Redboy dogs or Bolio but dogs with them I don't focus on niether one.
    it's the cross that I had a good female out of. That female didn't matter but the recipe does to get more of the same.
    This whole litter was good even the female so doing what I knew would work best, line breeding instead of in breeding them, I took more time & doubled up on each side.
    Worked well in the past so should be alright in the future.
    From the very 1st dog in my family to the very last breeding done it's always about breeding a better bitch.
    Now examples on what was personally done not what others had done.
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [551683] :: HICK'S BONE VENOM is a tighter version of this ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [528665] :: HICK'S MANGO & that's how you breed a better bitch.
    You can always get what you want breeding it instead of trying to buy it.
     
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  4. corvettedex

    corvettedex CH Dog

    A few years back Lady Rampage (rip) started a tread about How important is the Bitch in breeding great dogs? One thing I have learned over the years is this. Try buying a provben performing - producing bitch from a Top breeder. Males can be acquired from the same Top breeding program's more often than the females. So imo I believe the bitch is so important.
     
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  5. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    The bitch has always been the key . All you have to do then is breed to 1 of the many males that would be up for stud . Loosing a good bitch is heart breaking .
     
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  6. bounty

    bounty Big Dog

    You wouldn't pay to go breed to a shit stud,same goes for the bitch, you get the best you can get.
    Better paying 5k or 10k for a producing bitch and spend the money and time feeding good ones than doing a crap shoot
    breeding and feeding rubbish for 2 years.
     

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