Assault Weapons Ban

Just thought I'd keep everyone updated.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=6960824&page=1

 

I'd of been suprised if he didn't want to reinstate the AWB.I've been expecting it actually.:mad:

 

"The Assault Weapons Ban signed into law by President Clinton in 1994 banned 19 types of semi-automatic military-style guns and ammunition clips with more than 10 rounds"

personally, im all for the 2nd ammendment. BUT i certainly dont think you need a Kalishnikov w/ a banana clip, or an AR-15 to protect your home, nor do you need an Israeli Uzi to hunt with.

 

The 2nd amendment has nothing to do with hunting. Its to keep our government in check. These awb are based on people fears. They associate these military type weapons with something thats evil or scary, but really they are just semiautomatic weapons.
GUN CONTROL IS JUST ABOUT CONTROL. Time and time again stats have shown armed citizens make for a safer community. So if its not our safety whats it really about?
Why do i need an ak or ar15? Maybe because the guy breaking into my house has one! Dont worry its 2009. No one needs guns the government will protect you. Just look at Katrina:rolleyes:

 

BTW i got my upper today!!! Pre Obama price too!

 

You don't need an AR15 to hunt with but it's a very nice firearm and can perform many tasks.The 2nd admentment isn't only about hunting,it's about freedom.I personally want as good a firearm as I can afford to protect my family and property.Could I with an old single shot shotgun,probaly but I'd feel better with something else.Just because someone owns a AR15 or AK doesn't mean they're going to do something bad with.To relate it it to something people here can relate to it like going out and buying a top notch bulldog doesn't make you a dogfighter any more than it means a guy with more than 10 rounds in the magazine of his rifle is going to shoot up a school.If someone murders someone with an AK then they should be in a world of trouble,but same goes if they used a single shot .22 or a baseball bat.And the people that the anti gunners would have everyone think we're being protected from with these laws don't care about breaking the AWB laws.I mean if your going to shoot someone,what's one more little infraction like using a banned gun to do it with.The laws just stops people from getting one legally,that doesn't stop criminals.Like the pitbull crowd sticking together to fight the BSL laws the gun owners,all of them not just hunters,or target shooter,or people only interested in self protection,but all of them need to stick together to fight the gun laws.A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

 

Anyway,everyone is entitled to their own opinion,but that's mine.

 

Hey Cheese,don't you just love the Obama prices:eek: Sky high now. Gun dealers are making a killing.By the way have you got the 6.8 SPC upper yet,I hear they're nice but I ain't saved up enough yet.

 

Nope. I dont see one in my future either, im broke. Maybe an ak instead

 

rallyracer, why should you tell me what i can and cant have regarding weapons if i'm not harming anyone? same goes for our bulldogs. ar's and ak's are very seldomly used in crimes, in fact, most crimes are committed with pistols with lower calibers than .45. The gov. is going to use the mexican boarder as a guise to unarm law abiding citizens. Mexico's problem is their problem, not America's "gun culture". They think that by banning semis in the U.S. their problems will be manageable. I've got news for them. They'll get their weapons from the U.S. gov via the Mexican gov just like they do now. Don't let the U.S. gov fool you, Mexican officials are the problem, not American guns. Would you break into a house if you thought the owner may have a semi-automatic rifle? Or would you be delighted to know that those type of guns are now banned, and once they ban the rifles they'll go after pistols next. Don't believe me, look what happened in Britain... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKdBxpKqUvs

they've seen an increase in violent crimes since the introduction of gun bans. Now people are even going around stabbing people and they are talking about banning knives over 12 inches. Where does it stop?

 

They act like taking guns away from us is going to make Mexico safer. There are plenty of Mexicans running around with .220 ar15 and 38super. Those didnt come from us. What about all the law abiding Americans that live on the border? They should give up their guns in hope the drug cartels will give up theirs. Now thats crazy.

 

exactly where did i say i dont think anyone should be able to have anything of their choosing:confused:

i merely stated my opinion and i stand by it 110%

if someone breaks into my home (110% impossible w/ an army of Guineas and a bulldog at every entrance to the home...on the inside) the last thing im gonna grab is any type of rifle, sorry- you dont use those in close combat. im going for Ma' Bell (.44) and gonna let 'er ring. no need for a torrent splash of gunfire. if it takes more than 10 shots for you to fell an intruder(s) its time to hit the range.
for hunting most folks are fine w/ a rifle like a .222 or .30-06. one shot, one kill. if you dont have a kill shot...you dont take the shot.
i just dont see a need for semi-automatic weapons in daily life.
some people DO take the 2nd ammendment out of context though. i mean, the Bill of Rights was written over 200 years ago. there werent many semi automatic muzzleloaders back then
what im getting at is the times are much different. you SHOULD be able to defend yourself, but i dont think you need a .50cal machine gun to do so.
.....just my honest opinion

 

I agree with him. If the gov was trying to get rid of shotguns, rifles, or pistols I would be outraged and on the front lines of the fight but I just don't see the need to own a semi auto assault rifle with 50 rounds.

I am all for the constitution but like RR said 200 years ago their wasn't the technology we have today, and because of that when situations like this a rise I don't think it should be as cut and dry as the second ammendment makes it out to be.

 

rite here:

and no they didn't have semi-autos back then, but the muzzle loaders were one of the most advanced weapons at the time...

As stated previously, the second amendment has nothing to do with hunting, or even self defense for that matter. It has everything to do with keeping the government in line. A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Once you start taking away god given rights listed in the constitution, the people are no longer free.

Heres what the founding fathers had to say about guns:
(they are the people who provided us with this great country by the way...)

John Adams: "Arms in the hands of citizens may be used at individual discretion in private self defense."

James Madison: "Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms."

William Pitt: "Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."

Thomas Jefferson: "The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes....Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.

Thomas Jefferson: "The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."

George Mason: "To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them."

Noah Webster: "The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops"

Thomas Jefferson: "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."

Richard Henry Lee, Virginia delegate to the Continental Congress, Initiator of the Declaration of Independence, and member of the first Senate, which passed the Bill of Rights: "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."

Patrick Henry: "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined...The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."

George Mason: "I ask you sir, who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people."

Richard Henry Lee: "A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves...and include all men capable of bearing arms."

James Madison: "A WELL REGULATED militia, composed of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country."

Patrick Henry: "The people have a right to keep and bear arms."

Tenche Coxe: "Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American... The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people."

 

boston bully, i dont think you should be able to own that aggressive, man eating, baby killing pit bull that you have.:mad:

if someone wants to kill people, they are going to do it. If it be with a 50 round semi-auto or a baseball bat. Remember Virginia Tech? He killed 30+ people with a couple pistols. Banning guns isnt going to stop crime.

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin

 

hahahaha. nice! what brand upper? wish i had a pistol grip style stock for my socom II.

 

RRA entry tac. 16''. Socom II huh? Very nice weapon. Those things are real pricey

 

200 years ago THE PEOPLE had every weapon that the Gov. Had. In the DOI it says if the gov fails the people the PEOPLE Have the DUTY to overthrow that Gov. Facts....

You may not see a need or don't think that one needs a weapon like that or ask me why I need one. Well I ask you give me one good reason NOT TO OWN THEM!!!

Weather or not its about control at the root which I think it is. It is Perceived as control and oppressive...

The Gov. At every level should FEAR the People because in the US con. It says WE THE MOUTHER FUCKING PEOPE!!!

Not we the high elected kings and rulers of america dictate what the people can and can not do have or own within their community.

If a Community wants to ban them on a local level then the people should decide that

But ill be damned if a bunch of baby killing liberal homo cock suckers in Cali or NYC is gonna tell me what they think I should or should not be able to do with my GOD and Fore Fathers given rights here in the Great State of Tennessee!!!!!

By God let them try to take away my guns them sons of bitches!!!

 

So how would the ban work assuming it is the same as how it was pre 2004? Would the sales of assult rifles be illegal or owning them meaning eveyone who did would have to turn in their weapons?

 

I could faintly hear the star spangled banner playing when i read this.
Thats exactly it.
The founding fathers of this country werent dumb. You honestly think that they werent aware that weapon technologies wouldnt become more advanced? At what point would Jefferson said "oh thats too much gun for a citizen"? lmao
Shit every politician trying to take my guns away wont give theirs up. Feinstein keeps a concealed weapon. Why cant i? Is her life more important then mine?
Try to understand that if they can take an ammendment away from us they can take ANYTHING!