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Anything About California Jack

Discussion in 'APBT History' started by GBandy, Apr 9, 2009.

  1. GBandy

    GBandy Big Dog

    Can anyone in this forum tell me anything about California Jack? Is he still around? Does he still breed or where I might find pure dogs that have been preserved from him? Or anything about the Hollingsworth line of dogs. How bout Vise Grip Kennels are they still around?
     
  2. rallyracer

    rallyracer CH Dog

    CJ=vise grip
    he does still breed and does have some dogs for sale...if you cant answer his ?'s or he doesnt like you, he will tell you, and you WILL NOT get one of his dogs.

    search the internet, lots of info. some like the man, others loathe him.
     
  3. GBandy

    GBandy Big Dog

    Thanks RR...I'll look him up...
     
  4. GBandy

    GBandy Big Dog

    Is he a member in the forum? I looked up CJ only got 6 possible members back?
     
  5. mseebran

    mseebran Big Dog

    I herad some good and some bad about him.I don't know.But I would like too get some info myself.His website doesn't work anymore.Emailed him before and got no reply.I really want to know about Stormbringer and what's the deal about him curring out.Not sure if I should be asking questions like that or not.Correct me if need be moderators, and if this is inappropriate I appologize.
     
  6. mseebran

    mseebran Big Dog

    well...did I scare everyone off??
     
  7. StopBSL

    StopBSL Top Dog

    hes on apbt.online-pedigrees last i saw
     
  8. mikem

    mikem Pup

    stormbringer curred ???
     
  9. hozomeen

    hozomeen Big Dog

  10. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    I would try his stuff if I knew someone who ran it. One line is as good as any in the right hands. is there any proof to all the rumor's around CJ? anyone on here delt with him in the past? better yet anyone know the man I just went to his site for the first time and he has some nice dogs on paper. His ''otis jr'' dog is top notch I would get somthing off that any day.
     
  11. scratchin dog

    scratchin dog CH Dog

    yes Jack is still around. he occasionally has a dog for sale but he will not sell to someone who is not competent with dogs & cannot give the dog a good home. this means most people, and believe me he will know right off the bat if someone is capable of taking care of one of his dogs the way he wants them to. if you are interested in learning more about the Hollingsworth line of dogs he has a book available.
    http://www.johnkoerner.org/Hollingsworth/
     
  12. scratchin dog

    scratchin dog CH Dog

    what otis jr dog are you talking about? are you sure you went to the correct site? he does not own a dog named otis jr.
     
  13. scratchin dog

    scratchin dog CH Dog

    he is not a member of this forum.
     
  14. scratchin dog

    scratchin dog CH Dog

    if you would like to talk to him about rumors involving stormbringer then please go to peds online and ask him.
     
  15. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    Scratchin dog . where do you get your facts? how do you know what dog he has on his yard?
     
  16. prpitdawg

    prpitdawg Top Dog

    Ca jack is a joke. people can say what they want but we know him personly and i dont like him. its not the fact that he thinks he knows i all, but the fact that he lets his dogs suffer with babesia and dont do the right thing and put them down. hes to worried about the money. he claims to be a dog man and he has a record of 3L and 1W. the one he won with was going over the wall when he picked him up. so what makes him a dog man the fact that he has been feeding dogs for 20 years. that dont make you a dogman my grandmother feed dogs for 30+ years does that make her a dog women(and they were bulldogs) no. jack is a peddler. the dogs backing his dogs were good dogs BUT his are junk. i would feed poodles before i would one jacks dog.... its not worth the chance you would be taking infesting the rest of your yard. yall feed what you want im just tring to give you some facts about ca jack
     
  17. GBandy

    GBandy Big Dog

    hmmm, interesting...what I'm finding out...about CA Jack...a lot of it isn't very positive either...and after visiting his website...and reading his policies and requirements on aquiring a dog from his yard...IMHO sounds like a glorified puppy peddler...Im just trying to find out where my best chance of finding pure blood from some of the earlier dogs...As for the Hollingsworth line, I saw the book he was selling...Dont know if a would pay to read it personally...
     
  18. scratchin dog

    scratchin dog CH Dog

    I'm not really inclined to tell you that. But I dont think he would even name a dog otis jr. especially since his main stud dog is silverback. most of his pups have the name silver in them depending also on which bitch he breeds to. but i have no idea where otis jr. would come from.
     
  19. scratchin dog

    scratchin dog CH Dog

    I dont care if you dont like him, in fact he probably doesnt like you either..that is if you really even know him like you claim to. Youre just another person spreading rumors that you have heard but no facts to back it up.
     
  20. scratchin dog

    scratchin dog CH Dog

    Yup 3-4 breedings a year is a puppy peddler alright..especially compared to Tom Garner right? :rolleyes: His policies and requirements are really just to keep the idiots away and so far it seems to be working for him. Anyone who cant read and follow those simple directions; he really will not sell his quality pups to.
     

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