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Any US kennels favoring a terrier-type strain?

Discussion in 'Staffordshire Bull Terriers' started by kitchener, Nov 19, 2013.

  1. kitchener

    kitchener Pup

    Not sure if the bully phenotype is absolutely pre-dominant, but I'm wondering if there are some kennels that have been favoring a more terrier-type over a multi-generation period?

    Thanks!

    Aaron
    Wilmington, DE
     
  2. RedGoodbye

    RedGoodbye CH Dog

    Lmao....saywhatnow?...?...??
     
  3. Jdll13

    Jdll13 Big Dog

    WTF??? Huh??? Que???
     
  4. OnTheRocks

    OnTheRocks Moderator


    Get off his back! This actually comes across as an educated post. Back in the days they used to label two types of Staffords; The terrier type and the bull type. On top of that they labelled dogs as being the “middle of the road”.

    From a European perspective I have noticed that there are a few US breeders that have bred dogs according to the posters description. The type mainly debated in this forum is the so called working type. There have been extremely few of those that have made their way to the US! Now and then I hear about people having dogs bred down from them. But these dogs are mostly not pure working type, not in my book anyhow…
     
  5. kitchener

    kitchener Pup

    Thanks. Running a lot of searches, I've been coming to the same conclusion -- the terrier phenotype is either extremely hard to come by or virtually non-existent.
     
  6. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    I understand what he is asking to.Cant help him none but did understand it.
     
  7. CrazyK9

    CrazyK9 Top Dog

    It would be nice to see more terrier type in both SBTs and ASTs instead of bully. But that's what wins in the show ring.
    I am so sick of judges awarding overdone dogs when, if you look at the dogs they based the standard on, it isn't correct. I hate fads.

    The only nice looking SBTs I have seen in the US are flyball dogs and a lot of the time they are breeding them to other breeds for sport mixes.
     
  8. kitchener

    kitchener Pup

    Your mouth to God's ears, CrazyK9. And when you talk about this with show breeders, they look at you like you have a penis on your head and regurgitate like automatons, "I breed to the standard."
     
  9. OnTheRocks

    OnTheRocks Moderator

    There are enough of them throughout Europe. We import US dogs to Europe all the time. So what I do not understand is why so few Americans are capable of importing dogs of the type they prefer! There is obviously an interest and a demand in the Working type/Athletic Stafford’s over there.
     
  10. 12 gauge

    12 gauge CH Dog

    breeders dont care here in the US about function when it comes to staffords. i breed for my own satisfaction anymore, people are full of shit, are very fake and dont appreciate. im not a kennel

    same family of dogs

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  11. kitchener

    kitchener Pup

    I suppose it boils down to the rule of form over function for what's become essentially a non-working breed. In contrast, Americans import GSDs from European working kennels frequently, and with good cause, given the crazy angulation fads plaguing that breed in the show circles.
     
  12. BLUE8BULL

    BLUE8BULL CH Dog

    ..........nice dogs ..12-g.....
     
  13. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua Premium Member

    I just want to clarify something here is the Term used as BULLY or BULL?
     
  14. kitchener

    kitchener Pup

    Bully, or bullie, as in more bulldog in type (larger head, more stout in body, etc.).
     
  15. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua Premium Member

    I am surprised Ontherocks didnt correct your terminologies, hence the reason a few members did not understand your question.

    Staffordshire BULL Terrier, or StaffyBull.....as opposed to Staffordshire BULLY Terriers or Staffybully? Which one is the right terminology? LMAO
     
  16. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    I think he understands the terminology.He was wanting to know if thier were any breeders that bred more to the terrier side of things rather than the bulldog side.At least thats what i think he was askin.Heck i may be wrong to Say.
     
  17. 12 gauge

    12 gauge CH Dog

    thanks, those are few of mine, i like em high on the legs and stamina for days
     
  18. kitchener

    kitchener Pup

    With regards to both Staffords and to APBTs, I've often heard the same phenotype adjectives (more "bullie" or more "terrier" in type).
     
  19. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    lol guess u havent saw the ones that look like hound dogs.
     
  20. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua Premium Member

    The correct term is Bull or Terrier. Its either more Bull or more Terrier. If you look at OnTheRocks post again he even says and I quote>"The terrier type and the bull type".

    The term BULLY or BULLIES is a new term invented by people who choose another path from the original APBT
    and making it a seperate breed of dog known as BULLY or BULLIES.


     

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