American Freedom KENNELS... DIVINES CASSIUS CLAY BLOOD? REALLY??

No not Ceasar. Ceasar was a Red Nose and as you might know he as well as his pups wee second to none. At 3 months old pups had to be seperated. If they got into it.. the one that hit the ground all the other pups would gang. Ceasar was a son of Duke who produced Junior, Kate, Bull, Sandy and one more I can't remember the name of right now. Old man Lewis Baker and Pat. What frank? Was it Frank Creed? Anyway, it's simply not true.

 

Do you think he will consider parting with the Mill? Is it in good shape? By the way me, Jim, Tommy and Fairchild was at Palmer Comba and he had a lot of Zebo Dogs. does Palmer still have Zebo blood? How is he?

 

Can you clarify? Indian Sonny and Sonny Saint Marie all got dogs from big Jim Wilson. SSM got Thor from Jim Wilson. Walt Wilson who was good friends with Mayfield Don that is. Pat Patrick also got dogs from Jim Wilson.. Goldie ring a bell? If memory serves me right Patricks Red Baby carried Jim's blood which was Corvino.Jim Wilson had more Corvino blood than anyone. Even Torress got dog's from Jim Wilson because I was at the Air Port with him.

 

What are you feeding?

 

According them it is...
Believe what you want.
Yes, Frank Creed who owned Maggie. I am sure if anyone would know, the man who owned the female should or why allow his bitch to be bred?

 

Palmer never owned Zebo dogs. We just talked to him a week ago.
His doing better know.
Palmer owned Creed's Yankee, his sister Crazy Dinna, his brother Nickel Andy, Creed's Nicodemus, ect. He was the breeder of Ch. Lively, Sam 5xw D.G. n2 Ch. Timex, Mt. Man's Johnnie Walker Red 4xw, Nitro 2xw, ect.
There is a picture in the early 1980's Gazette of Donny and his sister Francine Farindeano, their cousin Carmen Corvino, I.M., Ironman, Dick Stratton and Palmer all together in OH.
Palmer doesn't have the mill, Gary does and I don't think he would, I.K. has Walter K. Belt mill that Palmer and Tony M. got after he died.

 

Now if you knew Pat, Tony Corvino, Jackie Corvino or Mrs. Corvino, ect. then you know there were 2 Jim Wilsons and they weren't related.
The one who dealth with Sonny and shipped dogs to Walt wasn't the Jim Wilson who help Joe at the blacksmith shop.

Yes, I know of Goldie and Tommy had her and she didn't come from Jim she came by the way of Frank and Norm Geltz who owned the sire and dam.
They were half brother and sister off Frank's dog Clouse's Stabber.
The Goldie you are thinking of was Corvino's Teddy's daughter.
Norm owned Bosco and Frank owned Susie.
Susie was also the mother of Jocko and his brother Rocky bred to Andy.

Yes, that is correct, his name isn't Indian Sonny and Sonny Saint Marie.
That isn't his real name.
There are pictures of I.S. and I.M. together in 2004 on the Internet.
Ask Floyd, they had a conversation together about Frank sitting on Floyd's front porch with Floyd sitting there.
For the last 20 years of Frank life he would go every summer to Floyd's house and stay. They were best of friends.

 

His uncle's dogs.
His Uncle was Sonny.

 

maybe there is another Palmer Combs cause in 1978 my friend Jeff bought Buick Electra 225 Me, him and Tommy Richardson went to combs home back then being young we had to put that car on the road @ Tommy bought
TWO black dogs a male he name Sugarray after the golden glove fighter since you talk to him ask him about that? he later sent another dog to him and he told me himself he got the mother and father on his place he SAID TO US he got the mother@ father from Dave Adams you no i seen zebo @ greaser go @ i Ref him in No.carolinia at lester H also known as mountian Man now i don't no if he had decided to change bloodlines no matter how good the male is if the pups are't on < fie> fire something got to go. Now i can't speak on what he got from Frank Creed . By the way me @ my neph got a thirteen year old male that I no is has heavy stabber heavy stabber blood that i got from big john a friend of ours these's dog s have very hard mouths a not lot folks have this you no i'm a man that love my kingfish blood you no when Nate died a fellow in Clarksville Tenn got most of nate's dogs big john brough three back from brownsville Tenn i'll let you breed a tight bitch i've been sick i want the blood to con't living cause it's big jims corvino blood there one more guy that got this stuff he test real hard if you seed boscoe you no this other guy is old to so i'm going to let it out

 

Is this jacko jr off Patbozanowski /Bunhusers jacko the brother to Rocky@ Brenda,Santo that J Smith own?

 

reading this stuff is like going back in time haha

 

Yes I knew Pat Bodzianowski. I never said I knew Tony, Jackie or Mrs. Corvino. Big Jim, Fair, Roy, Tommy all knew them. I don't know if you read it wrong or didn't understand what I said but i hope declaration is understood with this response. Yes, there were 3 Jim's big Jim, Little Jim and I did not know the other. I heard about him through Jim, Roy and Fair when we would go to Frank.

 

In FACT Walt Wilson would stay in my house EVERY time he came to Chicago. I met him through BIG Jim Wilson. BTW Big Jim was the King NATIONWIDE

 

The same Walt who had KING TUT Blood was good friends with Mayfield and had Mayfield send me a PURE MAYFIELD bitch.

Thats all for now talk to you another time

 

I not saying Palmer never had any Zebo blood on his yard.
In fact he is one of the few I know that can pick out Zebo blood from across a show ring. lol
Frank Bunce had a lot of that blood as well.
So did Atlas' nephew in Homer.
David offer to give us Zebo and I too was at the Greaser show.
It is a very well known fact when Frank Creed died half the yard went to Palmer the other half went to Floyd.
Ask them, both are still alive.

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=257461


MRod ref for Nate & Buns when Batman & Gr. Ch. Ny. Ny.
They were in MO. together, Nate was sitting next to Roadwarrior.
Roadwarrior is who I thought got Nate's dogs.
MRod was with Sonny and the CCM Combine, as well as many other people.
MRod met Nate at Pat's years before and that is why he asked him 4 the Ny. show.

 

Jocko Jr. sire was never owned by Sonny.
Yes Jocko (Jr.'s sire) was a litter mate to Tommy's dog Rocky.
Brenda and Patrick's Goldie that Tommy R. owned were half brother and half sisters.
Rocky was a half brother to Brenda off the sire side Andy.
Goldie was a half sister to Rocky on the dam side off Susie the daughter of Stabber.

As for J. Smith I didn't keep up on his breeding to much.
He joined up with J.L. and was using WCC dogs the last I knew.

 

Why I posted that was because many were lead to believe Young Jim who was involved with Sonny was the same Jim Wilson who worked at the blacksmith shop of Joe's. He wasn't
Old Jim was well into his 70's when he would help around the shop.
He inherited some of the dogs when Joe died.
He is the only one who got any of the dogs for free.
This is what pissed Sonny off because Mrs. Corvino made him buy anything he wanted. After he went through most of those dogs he started to get them from Norm until the bust in 74.
Mrs. Corvino and her grandson Carmen bred dogs together until 1975.

The Jim you might not have known was the one who worked at the shop.
This is the Wilson who got the dogs from Mrs. Corvino.

 

The Walt Wilson who got Goldie, the daughter of Teddy and she was already bred.

 

Here is a picture outside Gold Exchange in Chicago:
http://www.ironlinekennels.com/Page_19x.html

 

you should be a detective the way you are digging wit all due respect Frank and Jim and myself use joke about how Pat bought the litter except one that one lewis/louis baker sold to a farmer that dog start killing the mans live stock he new pat and pat went got him buy the way they conspired on tommy and cunnie and plus they never brought the pups they promised and we never new were old man baker live and back then if three or four blks went to woconda looking for who ever you had to leave there im not trying to bash bash anyone especially people that was very good to me i say very good these guys were like BIG Jim their word and behavior was from another time they never had a problem with if you wanted it you got it by the way we must be able to correct our mistakes and if i see something i no is wrong im going to let it be known i don't say i no every thing HEY if a man didn't do it and you no he didn't do it step up and clear it up Am I Right or Am I WRONG just like guy said that Palmer combs never had Zebo Blood and I no me B Jim B Jeff bought a new electra 225 1978 tommy back then was a garbage man we wwere off on sundays so we went to Palmars bought two dogs could'nt wait to git home we gave them 3 days and bump'em hay there was three goldies too. they wanted the blood i 've went and bought dogs lots of times brought home the dogs i have made it come out of them just like Tommy spent all that money only to be dispointed the cassuis blood run them