Breeds that could defeat a Spotted Hyena or Wolf?

I want an honest/non-biased opinion here from the dog aficionados - is there any dog breed would favor to defeat a full grown spotted hyena or full grown North American timberwolf? Not in a baiting scenario - in a natural setting.

I've heard rumors from Kangal lovers of Kangals killing spotted hyenas in Africa, but I find Kangal lovers to be some of the most delusional folks on Earth, so I question the validity of these claims.

Glad to be apart of the forum.

 

Set one down and find out. This is fucking stupid.

 

LOL.
a Hyena.
how the fck are you gonna see such a contest in a naturel surrounding?
Hyenas and Wolfs are not normally alone.and i doubt they would stand around to sombody aproaching armed with a dog.if they did stand around they aint gonna say "come ed,one of us will fight your dog..straightner!".
lol,i dont think wild animals are into gambling.
still,as stupid as it is, lets just go threw some stuff here.
not many Timer Wolves(or any Wolves for that matter)or Hyenas, will fight to the death in the same way dogs would.however if one did stand to a dog it will be the dog showing its gamness when it gets its self killed.
man White fang aside and a Timber Wolf is a huge beast with huge teeth and massive jaws.
a Hyena not as big but wicked jaws.
youed need a big dog.but how could this be done?
the Hyena or wolf would probs not stand around for long on a feild and to trap one and pit it aginst a dog would be baiting.so there for your question is down right crazy.
im probs even crazier for thinking this threw but ill carry on...

Frank Shearadon was a noted English hunter that some time during his long life his ocupations took him to Africa.of just one of many places.
now Frank has took every animal you can name.if it swims,flys or runs Frank will take it.Rinos,Zebras you name it.and Frank had hunted it.
so with that CV i think Franks op is worthy of note.as hes genuine,and a total legand when it comes to hunting.
he makes note of a Bull Terrier he owend many years ago.he states the bull terrier was a white show bull terrier not American or a Staff.he tells of this dog sniffing around camp at night when next minuet a huge Hyena weighing in at about 80lbs apears out of no were on its own,infrount of the dog.the dog was on it in a flash and Frank said even though at first he was worried for the dog(hed sent a man to get a rifle while he watched)he noticed the dog got into its throat and with not much fuss at all killed the brute with in twenty mintets and started to drag it towards the tent.
he said the dog was chewd up but not to bad.the dog survives and is a legend in Franks eyes.
thats the only account of a dog v Hyeana i can find.ive heard of Borbeols being used more recently by farmers in Africa for such things but although storys of this nature are common,thet are just more of word of mouth, oppose to real evidence.but no doubt they do,im sure.
as for Timber Wolves White Fang is as far as ill go.and he was part dog.though i suppose Jack London may have heard (or possibly seen)many accounts of such combats.
So maybe years ago contests of this nature happed.from time to time,..i dont see why not.

Kangals most certanly kill Wolves for sure.but not Timber Wolves witch are the biggest Wolves there are.and not one dog.ives seen vids and three dogs is the norm.its not hunting and its not baiting, its purely protection.the dogs sleep with the sheep,when Wolves come,the dogs are called on to act.thats why they were them huge spikey colors.
its also intresting to note people who keep bulldogs in wolf infested areas of Europe keep the dogs inside if they can.as a dog that can fight the world can and has been ripped to bits buy wolves wilst chaind up out side in the night.

thats the best of this bizare crazy info i can think of..
if you ever get past the insane hyposis of this all, and you actully sucure a Hyena/Timber Wolf/Bear exc.then please be sure to let us all know how yer dog gets on.

LOL.
All the best.

 

Theres a even more bizare thread knocking round on here some were,about can a bulldog kill a lion?.!!

LOL.

 

Not wanna not for you that Spotted Hyenas are, on average, larger than Timberwolves.

I know there's much legend surrounding the size of Canadian Timberwolves, but they are on average just 110-120 pounds.

In some parts of Africa, female spotted hyenas average 150 pounds, and can get larger.

The rest of your post was an interesting read.

 

That's beyond bizarre, that's just lunacy.

An African lion would kill any dog in a matter of moments.

 

Ovcharka caucasian mountain dog
Irish wolfhound

 

Isn't the modern-day IWH just a non-functional dog bred for size and looks? And riddled with health problems.

 

LOL.
the modern wolf hound is not gonna be able to take wolfs.three hundred years ago yes.but not now.
i got cliferd hubberds dogs of britian from about 75 years ago,and hubberd mentions a strain of wolf hound used in the canadian back woods to hunt timbers.he also says they aint many strains like this.
on the flip side of that check out them awesome American Lurchers what still run down wolfs and cyote to this day.
they are a blend of wolf hound,deer hound, and greyhound.and possibly Borzoi.
the Aussies also breed a similare dog of the same blend witch they call roo dogs.or roo hounds.

Both them two breeds are well worth checking out.

Obviously they aint pitted against wolfs.they run em down in groupes of three or four.
they start em on Cyote witchs makes good sense imo.then graduate them to Wolf.
its meant to be a complex proceder,and its said with out correct entering to the game,no dog can be expected to call on a wolf.
theres some good books on this sight threw the gotenburg sight about this subject.
the books are old.but the dogs mentiond in such books are the ansesters of the modern American Lurcher.
i dont think they called lurchers.i think they call em Nabrasca hounds?or cyote hounds?..but most commonly Stag hounds..(not to be confused with the extinct sent hound,that was once known as Stag hound.)

All the best.

 

These threads. You are literally asking about dogs and Hyenas lol.

 

LOL.

 

As you know I am from Alberta Canada and I found it interesting what you say about the wolf hound. My grandfather told me when he was a boy (was born in 1926 so early 30's) He new a man that had dogs in boxes on a horse drawn wagon or sleigh and when he would see a coyote/wolf or what not he would pull a rope to open the boxes and his catch dogs where greyhounds and his kill dog was a big Irish Wolf hound (that's what he called it anyhow) I spoke of this many years ago on here and got laughed at and was told he was full of shit. Maybe this was the type of wolf hound my grandfather spoke of cause he sure ass hell wasn't no liar. Interesting.

 

My grandfather's father was from Montana had a ranch there. He used Irish Wolfhounds and a cross between another type of hound I don't know what type of hound. He would run his dogs in a pack to when he seen any signs of wolves around the ranch. I remember seeing a lot of pictures of dead wolves.He also said he lost some dogs too.

 

That's pretty neat. Alberta where me and my family are from borders Montana its just straight up from it.

 

I knew "Doggie hubberd " soze.

 

HUBBARD,sorry.

 

Thats just awesome.
nice contibuton Box and David!.
no doubt in my mind we are on about the same dogs here,bit to much of a coinsidece i think.
let people laugh man,this stuffs real.
and the decendent of these dogs are still with us now man.still used in the exact same way your gandad used them.ive seen a vid man!
youetube got vids of this on there man,it aint no lie.
the American National kennle club (whatever that is???)reconise this breed as the American Staghound.the breed standard goes up to a hundred pounds in weight and calls for rough haird 'Greyhound like breed'having been bred for performance for over a hundred years.
if only the UK had a club for its wolfhounds with a standard like that!

Heres a nice piece for you lads....
Observations on Borzoi,by Joseph B Thomas 1912.
'The American conditions of hunting are most severe on the dogs,because he usually has a tremendously long run to overtake his quarry(Coyotes and Wolves),who almost invariably has a good head start,and is at best a very swift animal...i do not belive that any dog that has not worked in puppyhood can possibly acquire,after he has reached the age of one or two years,sufficient staying power and love of the game ever to become really good..There are not many good dogs of any breed that will tackle a Coyote or Wolf without proper training;and with out experience,it can be said its impossible for any hound even to catch a Coyote.Most Western Wolf hunters have packs of hounds,picked up here and there,that are kept merely because of there performances,regardless there breeding,shape or color.These hounds,which run loose all year,traveling at times sixty to seventy mikes a day,are of all sorts of coursing blood,Greyhounds,Deerhounds,and Borzois.The conditions of coursing Wolves or Coyotes are most difficult.Un places the country is very rough,and the Coyote generally gets a long start,somtimes more then half a mile.He is surprisingly swift,so tgat it takes a good hound to catch him.He is also a surprisingly good fighter,so that is asking a good deal of any animal in coming,winded,upon a Coyote to tackle it."

All the best lads.

 

Yeah??,awesome stuff Stedz.

 

If you were ever looking for a an old book,and couldnt find it,he would have got you a copy inside a week gaurenteed.