1st lesson learned on how to build a bloodline.

The 1st lesson I was given was how to pick & choose what you feed & breed .
It was a simple method.


Fire!!! You can only take 3 dogs with you.
What 3 you feed & why?

Now get rid of the rest.


That was how you chose what to feed & what to cull.


Anything else get rid off.

If they are not that 3 they need to go because you need to see every dog in every breeding.


After so many generations & the breeding becomes established. Find strengths & weakness & find 2 more that carry family strength for what you need and restart the process.


Once you go threw each litter restart the process again over & over.


Dogs make papers so what you know & learn from each dog will be way more valuable than what you hear or read about.


My 1st lesson over 40 yrs ago.

 

not exactly good advice,because if you had 10 real good dogs then you would of just decreased your genetic variation. And most likely bred yourself into a corner. If you said keep your 3 best bitches and then breed to the best producer you have access to then maybe a good idea.

 

never get rid of a good hound

 

I disagree with your lesson.

 

Back up your statements with proofs before making your statements.
Buy other folks dogs don' count.

 

You know what don't even worry about it!


You can't do anything but waiste your time on trying to fit 10 cups of knowledge in brains that can't even hold 2 cups worth.
Because some folks aint nothing but a waiste of time.
They wil go out of there way to hold other people back because they don't know or understand.
Once again it's proven just how much on a differrent level some folks really are.


If you think you can learn something from someone who just bought other people work that's on you.

Those who have contacted & wish to stay in contact know how too!

 

Sensitive much?

 

Just because some may not agree with your methods doesn't make them an idiot.

 

There is more than one way to bake a cake.

 

guess it depends on what you're starting w/ to begin w right. I don't know shit about pits, necessarily, compared to many of you, but I have bred other breed before, and not many ppl are fortunate to have even 1 really good dog, much less 3, and certainly not 10. I mean...breeding isn't that ez, an most can't afford to go buy proven dogs 10 at a time...Just my opinion. Try not to crucify me..lol

 

Hey ZIGG I agree, but we both have been around bulldogs for more than 30yrs, a d it's hard to convey a real world application to theory driven world.

 

Ziggy, try not to be so sensitive over peoples opinions. Not everyone is going to agree with you but that shouldnt make you want to pack up your toys and go home. You make some some valid points and the way you started worked for you. Dont mean it works for everyone and no matter who anyone is, we all got our dogs from someone elses work, even you Sir at one time. There isn't only one way to skin a cat. I do agree that if someones opinion differs from yours then they should show their reasoning as well or the way they built their own line rather than just cutting down your methods with simple responces.

 

There are a lot of factors like money, time, patience, part time, experience, location that will all change someone's approach, theory has nothing to do with it.

 

IMO I would start with a solid foundation of good, honest dogs, breed the ones I felt would complement each others strenghts and weaknesses. Raise the WHOLE litter up and when they come of age, go through each and every one with a fine tooth comb. Keep the best, bury the rest. Repeat process. Different factors will dictate certain aspects like ursa mentioned. I dont really agree with the keep 3 theory though if i were to say, "start my own line", you cull off the all others in the litter as pups and you just never know, could have just culled your ace. Im not saying your idea is wrong, as long as it works for you, I just think you limit your %'s by only keeping 3 of say a 6-8 pup litter.
On top of that thought process I dont see how pups acting on "Fire" contributes to much. Hot water cools quick and how could one possibly know that the aloof, quite and calm one wont grow up to be a better dog than its hot acting pup brother that grew up to quit in 15. When I pick out my keepers from pups all I am really looking for is the phenotype I am looking for. That family physical trait if you will. Cant really check anything else more important until they are grown and given the chance to prove you wrong. I think this could be a good thread topic.

 

Thank's for the info i alway's accept i'm waiting on my income tax so i can finish settin up my yard i thought about 4 pup's.3 female 1 male or 2 female 1 male. I dont know yet. It's taken me 3 years to decide what pedigree and bloodline to use. Im alway's reading book's and taking advice from the ol'timers.tryin to learn more everyday.so if anybody has advice i'm listening.

 

Theoretically speaking is all one has in the beginning, so not to be critical but how can one say theory has nothing to do with it.

 

Theories don't produce dogs though.... It's always funny when people talk down on others for "buying another mans work", I sure would like to find that magical bulldog tree they their dogs fall off of


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There is more than one way to do dogs is no theory is fact. You can start with 3 and breed them for 10 generations and still not have shit is one way.. but you will have your own bloodline!

 

Usra I agree with you their are additional ways,but in the beginning until facts are known and proven what do you have? What do you cal it?