Breeding to a steroid champ...????

Others have said the same but if you think juice doesn't make a difference you are either trying to explain away something you know isn't kosher or don't understand what it does. Agree it won't make a cur game but you don't need to be game, just have enough gas to out race the other. Also, agree production and performance are different. If your breeding to one who was on the gas each time out how do you know the true quality of the animal?

 

There are limits to what a steroid can do. You need a great dog to win each time out, especially multiple times into top competition. Steroids are performance enhancements. You cannot enhance something that isn't already there and steroids have peaks and valleys. You can look up studies done with placebo and see when peak performance is reached in humans. Dogs are different but timing is crucial, doses are crucial, compounds and esters... After cycle drugs to regulate them hormones are crucial. Again, you can't enhance something that's not there. A no talent dog is not going to get that much better.

Think of it like this. A steroid can only improve certain things. It cannot improve eye-hand coordination. It may be able to improve the speed in which a hitter gets the bat to the ball. If a baseball player was hitting 1 home run a year, took steroids and doubled his output to work home runs a year, he still could not hit 3rd in triple A.

 

Good post DannyB

Steroids is basically a supplement. Its works no different then any other over the counter supplement on the market the only difference is steroids is illegal to buy without a prescription and illegal to use in most legal sports.

As with any supplement in order for it to actually take affect and make a difference one has to actually Condition him self to the fullest potential in order for it to work, you cant just sit on the couch all day long playing video games at home and expect the steroid to increase your physical condition LOL.

The misconception people have with supplements is that they think this product will make you this or make you that is not the case as its NOT the product that does that but its the TYPE of work out one does that determines the out come of that product. For example a sprinters type of work out is speed and burst of speed, while a person entering a strong man competition is more about strength and muscular endurance. A base ball player like Babe Ruth uses supplements to increase the speed and strength in his batting power. A long distance runners work out is based mainly on Endurance type of work outs.

You see its so funny how people tend to blame the roids like oh he didnt know how to use the roids right thats why he lost BUT it could also be other factors that contributed to it like doing a KEEP right. If you've done a shitty Keep, it wont matter much even if you were using the roids correctly.

3 things that Factor in being successful in any type of sports activity FIRST the most important factor is the Individual person/animal himself , followed by his (KEEP) work out conditioning regimen, and last but not least nutrition/supplements. 1.Dog, 2.Keep, 3 Nutrition/supplements in that order of importance but you need all three to compete at the highest level of competition.

Like the old time saying "the main mistake a dog man can make in a KEEP is conditioning the wrong dog. LOL

 

On the flip side of that if you got a dude playing Major League Baseball you can bet hand eye coordination is there ...Your no slouch if you in the big leagues.And something else could you imagine if Hank Aron was on roids ? Lol

 

In humans when you reach professional level in sports the playing field becomes equal its rare to see a freak like Bo Jackson and this is why you see some athletes willing to try performance enhancements..I think dogs have the advantage because of superior breeding.So to me its hard to compare the two.

 

I am in no way saying that juice makes a couch slug a super star. Just it is an advantage in the case of people or animals who have skill and put the work in. Also, like I said it doesnt affect production. But if you breed on titles / outcome of comp which was tainted each time out do you know what you are really getting? People should be looking deeper if they are seriously looking for a competition animal but many just see those Ws.

 

As long as you stay true to yourself breeding to a steroid champ should be no problem as long as you know the dog is made from the right stuff.

 

That's my point. Hand-eye coordination is a skill that can't be improved with anabolic steroids. A high school player has a certain ability, college players exceed that, minor leaguers exceed that usually, then the majors is elite.

Now there are traits and abilities that you can evaluate on a dog that also cannot be improved upon with steroids. As long as you know the dog is elite to begin with.

 

Danny I will disagree on that ..Hand ,Eye coordination can be improved..Hardest thing to improve is speed because no matter how hard you work your only going to be so fast but coordination is something that can be improved.

 

It can be improved with exersizes that work muscle memory. The roids dont improve Hand or eye coordination just the means to improve on it..

 

I agree with this agk! hand, eye coordination can certainly be improved without roids... I see were your going with this and I did miss that point of what Danny said .Yes Danny is right roids will not improve this .

 

Gameness, intelligence, style, strategy, coordination, etc, can't be improved. Speed, stamina, strength can. Steroids increase muscle mass but not bone density, or tendon strength.

 

and speed its only so much but that so much may give u the edge u need..I like speed a lot as I think speed will overcome most other faults .jmo

 

The bottom line is roids dont make a dog game....if your going to breed to him just make sure his system is back on track

 

I would never use roid's my pride wont let me.if my dog's succeed in anything i whant it to be because of the blood,sweat,tear's.all the hard work we put in.not because he's pumped full of juice.

 

A man would know if the dog is worth breeding with or without steroids, most peoples knowledge on PED's is so poor they'd probably do more harm than good.