bloodlines with consistent conformation ?

Question for all you doggers outthere, when it comes to confirmation which is very important in a working dog, what line do you feel or have expirence with that produces dogs with good-great confirmation, mines would be jeep dogs, most of the jeep dogs I owned in the past for the most part had good confirmation on a consitent basis.

 

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Chinaman dogs do. I've had a couple and had a few partners with some and all had great conformation. Of course that is pending on what crosses have been added. The Chinaman pup I got now has little Gator crossed. He's built just like Chinaman though. He resembles Chinaman alot. But honestly I'm not sure of its bloodlines that would "produce" conformation with all the crosses. I think that's up to the breeder really. I've seen non conforming dogs in all bloodlines...but certain breeders have a high percentage of conforming bulldogs.

 

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My "Opinion"....all lines have their good and the bad. Depends on which dog from a line u choose to breed to and what you take to it.

 

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Confirmation is one of those things that's bred for. Its inherited through selective breeding. Yes some can be born that way...but they usually dont have two sevearly non conforming parents either lol. Its not just because its a Eli dog or a Redboy dog that's its going to be confirmationally correct. If your breeding for confirmation ...say your dog/bloodline is lacking something ...you will out cross to hopefully inherit that trait your line/dog lacks. Then linebreed/inbreed to isolate it/retain it. Its the breeder not the bloodline. All bloodlines have good and bad. You breed best to best...or one that's lacking to best to get good confirmation or better than what you previously had then continue to improve that line.

 

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Every line has good and bad dogs. I have seen shitty conformation in them all. Depends on what 2 dogs you are breeding if the parents have solid conformation it's likely that the offspring will inherit that not always the case but the chances get better especially when one is culling fatal flaws out the breeding program. But no dog is structurally perfect they all have faults to some degree some worse than others. Structure is important for a working dog but these dogs were also bred to work first and foremost even beyond their faults so while structural faults can present problems to a working dog it doesn't always stop them from doing what needs to be done. You mentioned the heavy Jeep dogs having good conformation on a consistent basis I have seen plenty that looked like shit. So it really just depends there are good and bad in them all so it would be impossible for me to give one specific line. I personally like the Mayday/Buck dogs because I prefer a dog with more bone they tend to run a little heavier but this is not always the case with them all it depends on the breeding. I think with the tighter bred dogs bred off a specific family you will see the faults that particular family is known to produce if you know the family well enough and the dogs behind it. But nothing is set in stone genetics can throw surprise curve balls this happens all the time when you are breeding.

 

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Super answer SADIE, somebody get her a cape and a yellow SA(super answer)on it, lol.... again, everything you need to know is pretty much here now, use it the best of your knowledge and keep em coming.

 

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that boogieman shit, period.

 

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Sorrells dogs

 

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Sorrels dog are nice. Which sorrels though. Bert? Rick? Boogie man himself had great confirmation. Not sure about his off spring being that way. I know he produces some champions. Where the show or box champs? Boodieman had some Red Devil blood. I had a male and female with Red Devil in them that recently passed. Very unfortunate ..but they both where built nice. Dense boned...a little thick for my taste but very nice. I have pics on my profile of the two. They where both old as Moses and fat couch potatos in the pics but still. They where Eli/Carver/Red Devil crosses. Eli/Carver blood was down from 7x Gr Ch Art Rom.

 

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Boogieman's descendants have great conformation as well, take a look around.

 

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http://www.game-dog.com/showthread.php?t=52684

 

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Those are beautiful Bulldogs...I love me some red dogs to. Ive always been fond of the RedDevil dogs aswell as OFRN. They are magestic IMO

 

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Those are some beautiful dog I give Boogieman that but at the same time it doesn't mean there the best, not disrespecting at all but he racked up at the shows because they're doing what there supposed to which is follow ups with the pups to the breeder, conditioning thier dogs, all going to the same shows, etc. If everyone worked their dog how they were supposed to and did follow ups and all went to shows, it would show as it is doing for boogieman! Big ups to him choosing the right people to deal with and doing what he is doing by our breed!

 

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No one said the best, the topic was consistent conformation.

 

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Your right, but at the same time you don't get what the concept of my statement was!

 

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My point was if breeder's like boogieman actually had everybody doing what they were supposed to such as follow ups conditioning and breeding their lines and bringing them to be judged in the public eye instead of crossing everything and keeping them at home then they would have more consistency at producing consistent conformation and whatever else they are looking to breed into their line!

 

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I like all the traditional lines that have the most history, and conformation, which defines itself. - but like already posted, some do and some dont. Consistency is the KEY work, and after some study, you will be able to tell us! Anyone with a good breeding program that breeds correctly will be the best to answer these questions. I am not a "top producing breeder"
Just a keeper and farmer! Best way to find great conformation is to go to a conformation show.
You will also see some dogs that would do a job because function and form are very close .

 

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Not going to add anything negative - its almost noon... too late for that because my coffee has been drank and I switched to Monster for the day.
I have 1 more day to walk my dogs, because I got called back in to work for tomorrow. ..LOL This is just way too much fun for me to be having I anyhow. Haters everywhere -
The top ranked "ch" dog "right effin now" is who? Well the last recorded in point standings I have seen. - given there may have been a few other shows since print -
Who do you see ?? The ones that best go with the topic of this thread are right there at the top.
I dont know either of these dudes - I sure like their dogs though..lol
Not even going to give direction for my reply. Everyone already knows besides a few it seems.

Dang - # two is another good one, both of which I have actually seen a lot of pictures of - dooo doooo dooooot

Not kissin anyones ass, just stating facts, which some are blind to.

Good work B! you slready know though!

 

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Caldwell's GR CH Boogieman was a consistent producer of conformation champions. Some of his off springs produce just as nice if bred correctly.

 

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I understand your point completely. It was off the topic of the thread. Btw Boogieman was a dog. His blood has been crossed into other lines and produced dogs with great conformation as well.