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Hand walking vs treadmill

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by big mert, Apr 1, 2012.

  1. big mert

    big mert Pup

    I'm curious as to what everyone thinks, is hand walking better or worse? I don't own a mill so I can't judge the diff. How much hand would you do to get ready for a confirmation show?
     
  2. hardluck

    hardluck Banned

    what type of confirmation show?
     
  3. hardluck

    hardluck Banned

    just being a lil funny with you.. here is a thread that made for a good read http://www.game-dog.com/showthread.php?t=56127&page=1&highlight=mill+vs+handwald


    if your mentioning ADBA/AADR i wouldnt do any less than a peak of 5miles a day and no more than a peek of 10 miles a day for a conformation show.

    there are 3 types of mills all have there perks. everyone has there thing on roadwork, i like it because its a good stress reliever. if this thread doesnt take off for you there are past threads on this subject to look at also.
     
  4. big mert

    big mert Pup

    I thank you for your time and input.
     
  5. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    They are 2 different exercises used for 2 different things. You can win adba with either one
     
  6. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    the answer to which one is better is....both and neither....all conditioning equipment are nothing more than tools....when used correctly they are an excellent means to an end...used incorrectly injury and even death can be an issue...
    hand walking is an excellent form of exercise...it is the least expensive, the safest and the very best at building that partnership between the owner and the dog....the mills are very effective but the dog is far more susceptible to injury and over work on a mill....US1
     
  7. popow

    popow Pup

    I was taught to do both.being there are targeting diffrent areas.
     
  8. JTC

    JTC Big Dog

    IMO you wont be able to bring a dog to any type of show in peak shape unless you have multiple tools at your disposal. i like hand walking, e mill, slat mill, and flirt pole. not in any particular order, that depends on the dog. i also like using weighted collars and vests during certain parts of work. diet is also another important component of peak physical shape. cant get ripped and strong eating mcdonalds, same applies to the dogs.
     
  9. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    hand walking can bring one very close to peak conditioning....hand walking also includes pulling some chain....a weighted collar falls under hand walking.....if the dog pulls hard, keeping the lead tight, with the owner leaning back....that is as good as it gets....hand walking covers a lot of exercises...just like the mill can be used several different ways...and different types of mills can do different types of things...all of them can work...all of it can be a play on words...the next question is how we define peak condition....are we running a mill race? are we pulling weight? are we doing an iron dog event? are we gonna do something illegal? there are different types peak conditioning...the bottom line is that the tools/exercises/desired goals all need to fall in a line and compliment one another...US1
     
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  10. tigerboy5

    tigerboy5 Big Dog

    As far as conditioning for a conformation show i would just hand walk, pull weights, and feed properly and that dog can win a blue ribbon but if u take that same dog and same work can he go 1:30 mins in the summer heat? I dont know and wouldnt try it either. So it all comes down to what you are working the dog for.
     
  11. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    i knew guys that never used a mill. but never knew knew a fella that didnt handwalk.
     
  12. pookie!

    pookie! Top Dog

    I think if you dont handwalk your dog at all, what the fucks the point of having it? That time walking builds a one on one bond with your dog, even if its just for 5miles, I feel handwalking helps your dog pull out all the stops and dig deep when your competing in whatever venue because you took the time walking and built that bond..
    Now I wish I did have a mill for the days when I just dont have time so he would still get worked properly without me having to take hours and do the one on one..
     
  13. rroscoe

    rroscoe Lightner Hemphill / Colby

    Two hours,minimum,
     
  14. 6sN7s

    6sN7s Top Dog

    how about controlled biking at trot ;)
    2/3 the distance in the same time.
     
  15. gunman2376

    gunman2376 Big Dog

    i just fixed my bike, do both, hand walk and biking, my km counter doesn't work no more, im doing at least 1 h of biking, at his pace

    (and i might built a carpet mill for the winter time)
     
  16. Mr.Revolution

    Mr.Revolution CH Dog

    if i could only afford a E bike.
     
  17. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    very well said....US1


     
  18. hans33

    hans33 Pup

    agree !!! 100%!
     
  19. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    biking is another form of hand walking...the beauty of of it is that you can change speeds and distances in intervals...anytime you can get work done with the dogs feet on the ground it is an added benefit...and as far as the km/mileage counter that is a non factor....time is a far better method of measurement....US1



     
  20. gunman2376

    gunman2376 Big Dog

    slim12, i didn't thought about that deeply but you are 100% correct, i will pay more attention to it, thank you for the tip
     

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