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Male Vs Female

Discussion in 'APBT History' started by Ninety-Nine, Jul 31, 2011.

  1. Finito

    Finito Big Dog

    I seem to recollect a female with a title,or possibly a littermate to one ?
    Hopefully someone clears this up & puts a name to a bad memory.
     
  2. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    stupid haha i guess i need to check my spelling or not type so fast .
     
  3. Laced Wit Game

    Laced Wit Game Yard Boy

    Not necessarily sayin the handler should feel stupid, I'm just sayin the the males corner has nothin to gain. If they win the "woopty doo, they wooped a bitch" you see how that sounds bro? Like I said if folks rolled a bitch with a male just to sEe how bad she is then I can see that. But on the other sides perspective I don't see anything to gain.
     
  4. Laced Wit Game

    Laced Wit Game Yard Boy

    Unless it was looked at like easy money, I didn't even think of that lol
     
  5. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    well keep listening because it was'nt easy money . your thinking males are better . but sometimes that just is'nt true .they did it because they had the weight .
     
  6. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    ecsplain why that is stupid old goat!!,
     
  7. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    you no why . giving up any weight is stupid . don't matter if they won . it's not good on there body to be pushing that much .
     
  8. Laced Wit Game

    Laced Wit Game Yard Boy

    I don't think its GOOD on there body regardless, but I would agree not to make a habit of givin up weight. The majority of the time you give up too much and your good as dead.
     
  9. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    IMO mixed maches are retarded & can't respect easy $ wins. if folks wasn't going into the best they could then what's the point?
     
  10. MISSAPBT

    MISSAPBT Top Dog

    I'm a little confused. Would the male dog preform at his max against a female? Wouldn't her 'lady smell' effect his performance?

    Excuse my silly question LOL
     
  11. MiRaGe

    MiRaGe Big Dog

    If she is in heat, yes. But still some males won't compete "hard" against a female regardless if she is in heat or not
     
  12. Laced Wit Game

    Laced Wit Game Yard Boy

    Thank you BB, my point exactly!
     
  13. Vicki

    Vicki Administrator Staff Member

    There's a great little acronym, 'SWIM', 'Someone Who Isn't Me', that could be used in place of I or me, or him or they. Get it?

    Example: SWIM walked his dog today.
     
  14. Naustroms

    Naustroms CH Dog

    none of that besides your opinion of mixed matches being retarded really have much todo with anything though.

    no not in all cases, actually I have never heard of a male going harder because it was a female.
     
  15. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    Alrighty then.Old Goat History hase shown us that particulair famelys have nearly always given up weight.
    im a firm beliver that if you dont have a animal that is able not to push at least 1 lbs up above there weight they arent as good in the first place!!.
    also most of Tug,s famely have always put on a Exstra lbs of weight on top of there true show weight!!! reguardless in witch weight class they where!!!. witch makes them able to push a 2lbs disavantige.
    its funny how quik and fast the quality of your stok gose up practising these things.
    as most dogs loose 1 lbs in the first 30 min anyway!!.
    making them ideal around the 30min mark!! . and able to go the ""distanse"" and have left to WALK home and ""recuver"" . insted of them being put on there tru weight!! and colaps a week later!!!... Animals from the past Like Terror gave up 8 lbs first time out 3 lbs sec out and 1 lbs 3 out at catsh weight(i wonder what that word means catshweight and why some of the bigger ones above 53lbs have no problem going up and ore go against dogs 7 ore more lbs sins the bigger the dogs get the worcer the quality gets!!)

    ""Ofcours"" dogman tru history have always try to get the best deal in fafour for a animal.
    but sometimes there are animals that are ABOVE the averich mumbo jumbo ones from witch you know cant be beat at practicly any weight. one of them was Fire Fox who gave up 2 1/2 lbs at 38 lbs into a animal called Holly who forced GRCH Candy(the one bred with GRCH Buster brouwn) into a 11 min pick up. and who walkt over Samarts and FWK Peticoat in 1.06 . ..
    To come back at her grand mother TUG ROM, who gave up a full 7 lbs, SHE was litter sister to Irich Tim,s CH Loochen!!! and them kind of dogs. Loochen never whent over 25 min mark and actualy never had a mark on him, There Mother was Uptouwns CH Snubby belly sister of Andersons CH Tonka, so dont say giving up weight is just plain stupid reguardles winning ore loosing.Because

    This breeds quality and history is detirmend around and about OUTSTANDING ANIMALS and there ofspring,The ones who where able to acomplise things that others ""could not"". win loose ore draw!!.
    Now unless your able to come up with outstanding animals from time to time, and take a risk at times to try to proove that what you got is the Bisenis and world class material. then i belive your not able to play with the big dogs in the fast lane anyway(unless your advice is aimed and ment for rookys then i fully agree with you).
    everyting in the world of Game dogs is about showing quality and to put your truth to another mans truth..... giving up weight is one of those things that ""can"" show of quality and witch makes reputations for animals and breeder and owner..It can also shorten a dogs career in a ""positif"" way, as ofthen these animals are ditermin unbeateble at there own weight!!!!. and get retierd......
     
  16. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    well catchweight is different . most of the time you can't find 1 at your weight . but if you look good enough then you will find it . i know tonka blood good and they don't give the weight up like you guys did . there's nothing to prove by winning against a bigger dog . you would'nt have done it if you did'nt know something about the dog already .new people hear this and will do the wrong thing . your fastlane is different than other places . people that will give up that much in the wrong place will never forget it . and MiRaGe stop reading the books and see for yourself . there's been many males that want bred a bitch and would finish her or the other way around . bitches are bad and until you understand that you will keeep reading . not all bitches but some will do more damage than a male . most of the time it was the owner of the bitch hooking these up .
     
  17. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    Old goat like i said if it was ment for rookys and less ecspearience dogman i couldend agree more.... you need to know what you got, in order to be able to give weight away... as for the Tonka blood there are thousends around and plenty of waterdouwn stuf just like any other populair famely. they started of with ECSEPTIONAL OUTSTANDING dogs that where able to do what normal animals could not. the animals that i mentiond and talking about including Tug Rom where ecseptional animals. and those can and did it. you can not compear them with tonka dogs...............
     
  18. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    what i mean nas is in the 1900's if someone went into a smaller dog & won i couldn't respect that. and if someone gives up a lot of wt & won then i'd question the quality of the big dog. 1lb could make a world of difference giving up 5 tells me enough to know better.
     
  19. Naustroms

    Naustroms CH Dog

    the weight thing really depends a lot on the physical size of the dog, style and weight. better to take it case by case. obviously the higher up in weight the less a pound or two is going to make a difference. also some dogs have a style where going up weight doesnt make too big a difference or their body type carries the weight differently.

    but its whatever you feel how you feel, personal i'd look at it between individual matchups rather than putting a blanket statement on it all.
     
  20. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    wt is wt it's all the same on a scale. 1lb has hurt a lot of feeling's in the past not always but more then enough. if they wanted to give something up that's on them. but first time they lose a good'n to a rigid scales they will learn.
     

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