Which Breeding would you do first?

First I would like to say both of these dogs are going to be bred to her at some point, but im trying to decide which one im going to breed to her first.
I would like some opinions on the matter. So here they are. Thanks in advance. Oh and I know since none of yall will "know" the dogs being bred ya'lls opinions will be based on lines, experience, and preference. But its all good.

Frisco/Carver/Eli
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=383426

Redboy/Jeep/Carver/Eli
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=385213

 

peds private

 

i would go with "soon 1" jmo

 

i agree w skipper

 

ne chance to get em public ?

 

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=383426
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=385213

 

Thanks Dream. And sorry guys didnt realize they were private.
And I know why you would go with that one since we've talked about it but why would you Skipper? Just wondering what your view on the breedings are?

 

i wont tell ya which one to do first. i pick one and you may get better dogs off the other.
do em both if the parents are good dogs and keep what ya get

 

Thanks for the advice. And yeah I know theres really no telling until I try them both. I just like to hear yalls opinions.

 

I hear a lot of people asking about opinions on which way to go on a breeding. And my opinion on the subject would be, if you have to ask than you shouldn't be breeding in the first place!
Not tryin to be an ass, but REALLY think about it!

 

the OP already stated both breedings were gonna be done, so i think it sounds like his mind is already made up. nothing wrong with asking for an opinion

 

You are absolutely right Lee! Anyone can do what they want with their dogs!
And like the op stated that- we don't know the dogs! He just want's to hear opinions, but really the only thing we can go by is what the peds say. Which isn't all that important to experienced bulldogger s or experienced breeders! Ped chasers maybe, but peds will never make a true blue real deal bulldog, An experienced eye for what two superior dogs put together usually do!

 

it would've been easier just to say nothing at all:rolleyes:

all things being equal i'd do the frisco breeding first but if the bitch is gonna be stuck by both it won't really matter in the long run.

 

I am a firm believer in family breeding and the power of selection within a particular family of dogs, which means many different possibilities within the locked in gene pool, breeding the best to the best within a family, knowing what to expect!
I know not everyone has the space, time and resources to achieve this and anyone who wants to be a breeder has to start somewhere, I did and IT AINT EASY! I took certain dogs that in my minds eye looked like what I needed for a future line.
My advice to anyone who are hellbent on becoming a breeder is to breed within your yard, best to the best, and not bringing in any outside blood into it. If ya need an out or want one you can find any swingin dick anywhere! thats if ya know other bulldogers with good proven stock!

 

when u start a family you often cross lines to make one rather than just stickin with someone else has already created which is what i believe is a goal for sampson. you have to start somewhere right? we have all these mayday dogs now but it started as a cross

 

Lol really now, What makes you think that Frisco stuff is gonna be the way to go? Enlighten me please!

 

this was my first thought

 

Yes you are right! Thats what I did.

 

If thats the mans goal than i wish him the best of luck! Just keep the bulldogs honest and don't make excuses for the one's that show bad!

 

ask and you shall receive.

i'd go with the frisco stuff first simply because i like it more.