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4 health

Discussion in 'Health & Nutrition' started by kalenhcc, Mar 8, 2011.

  1. kalenhcc

    kalenhcc Big Dog

    Does anybody feed 4 health? Im currently feeding diamond would anybody suggest switching or stick with diamond? All info appreciated.
     
  2. JamesT

    JamesT Top Dog

    Ive been trying it for a couple weeks now.So far i like it, and i never had any luck with diamond,even though its made by diamond.I feel a this point it is much better than the diamond line of dog foods.
     
  3. MCS

    MCS CH Dog

    I always wondered myself, Diamond Naturals has been working so I never switched. Thought it looked very comparable though. What are the major differences u r seeing?
     
  4. meno222

    meno222 Big Dog

    i think diamond makes that food
     
  5. crimsonghost

    crimsonghost Top Dog

    I feed performance formula, to a couple of the dogs. I like how they look on it.
    I've also tried the puppy and liked it, but tractor supply here runs out of it alot, so i dont feed it.
     
  6. spliff

    spliff Big Dog

    there's better foods out there for the money....
     
  7. kalenhcc

    kalenhcc Big Dog

    could you give some examples of some better brands for the same price? just curious
     
  8. Naustroms

    Naustroms CH Dog

    x2 i'd like to hear some.
     
  9. spliff

    spliff Big Dog

    well what do you normally spend on diamond in your area?
     
  10. JamesT

    JamesT Top Dog

    The first major difference was that i didn't have big runny piles of shit every where .That was one of the main problems i experienced with my trial run of diamond.The dogs just looked like shit when they were on it,and it seemed that i had to feed more to maintain there weight.

    I have only been feeding 4 health a couple weeks but i haven't experienced any of the problems i have with diamond yet.

    Just so we are clear i didn't switch from diamond to 4 health.I was feeding a local made feed that was similar to 4 health's.But so far so good.
     
  11. MCS

    MCS CH Dog

    Thanks for the info. I will take a closer look. Hope it keeps working for you.
     
  12. crimsonghost

    crimsonghost Top Dog

    It's made by diamond... Not diamond
    He asked people's opinons on the outcome of using 4health.
    Not if you liked the price..
     
  13. Naustroms

    Naustroms CH Dog

    i havent had much look with diamond. rashes, runny shits and poor coats.

    4health is good maint. food and priced right
     
  14. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    i never liked any of the diamond stuff other than the chicken soup for puppies
    also that company is hard to trust, quite a few dogs have died on that mess
     
  15. kalenhcc

    kalenhcc Big Dog

    I spend around 30 to 35 dollars a bag on diamond. But I still havent heard any better brands for that price.
     
  16. budboy88

    budboy88 CH Dog

    4Health = Diamond Naturals in smaller bags and bigger prices.
     
  17. JamesT

    JamesT Top Dog

    No 4health is not the same food as diamond naturals.
     
  18. budboy88

    budboy88 CH Dog

    You dont have to be the head mechanic at the jiffy lube to figure out its the same. Every formula might not be the same exact to the T but its close enough you wont see any differences. But whatever if it makes you feel better as a dog owner to spend extra money on the same damn thing than more power to you.


    Diamond Naturals puppy

    Lamb, lamb meal, egg product, cracked pearled barley, millet, ground rice, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), potato protein, oatmeal, potatoes, tomato pomace, flaxseed, natural flavor, ocean fish meal, salmon oil (source of DHA), potassium chloride, salt, choline chloride, dried chicory root, kelp, carrots, peas, apples, tomatoes, blueberries, spinach, dried skim milk, cranberry powder, rosemary extract, parsley flake, yucca schidigera extract, L-Carnitine, dried fermentation products of Enterococcus faecium, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Lactobacillus casei and Lactobacillus plantarum, dried Trichoderma longibrachiatum fermentation extract, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, biotin, niacin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin, vitamin D supplement, folic acid.

    <TABLE class=listTable><TBODY><TR class=light_row><TD>Crude Protein</TD><TD>27.0%</TD><TD>Minimum</TD></TR><TR class=dark_row><TD>Crude Fat</TD><TD>15.0%</TD><TD>Minimum</TD></TR><TR class=light_row><TD>Crude Fiber</TD><TD>3.0%</TD><TD>Maximum</TD></TR><TR class=dark_row><TD>Moisture</TD><TD>10.0%</TD><TD>Maximum</TD></TR><TR class=light_row><TD>Calcium</TD><TD>1.2%</TD><TD>Minimum</TD></TR><TR class=dark_row><TD>Phosphorus</TD><TD>1.2%</TD><TD>Maximum</TD></TR><TR class=light_row><TD>Phosphorus</TD><TD>1.0%</TD><TD>Minimum</TD></TR><TR class=dark_row><TD>Zinc</TD><TD>150 mg/kg</TD><TD>Minimum</TD></TR><TR class=light_row><TD>Selenium</TD><TD>0.4 mg/kg</TD><TD>Minimum</TD></TR><TR class=dark_row><TD>Vitamin E</TD><TD>150 IU/kg</TD><TD>Minimum</TD></TR><TR class=light_row><TD>L-Carnitine *</TD><TD>30 mg/kg</TD><TD>Minimum</TD></TR><TR class=dark_row><TD>Omega-6 Fatty Acids</TD><TD>2.2%</TD><TD>Minimum</TD></TR><TR class=light_row><TD>Omega-3 Fatty Acids</TD><TD>0.3%</TD><TD>Minimum</TD></TR><TR class=dark_row><TD>DHA (Docosahexaenoic acid) *</TD><TD>0.05%</TD><TD>Minimum</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

    4Health Puppy
    Lamb, lamb meal, egg product, ground rice, cracked pearled barley, millet, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), potato protein, potatoes, oatmeal, tomato pomace, natural flavor, flaxseed, ocean fish meal, salmon oil (source of DHA), potassium chloride, salt, choline chloride, dried chicory root, kelp, carrots, peas, apples, tomatoes, blueberries, spinach, dried skim milk, cranberry powder, rosemary extract, parsley flake, yucca schidigera extract, L-Carnitine, dried fermentation products of Enterococcus faecium, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Lactobacillus casei and Lactobacillus plantarum, dried Trichoderma longibrachiatum fermentation extract, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, biotin, niacin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin, vitamin D supplement, folic acid.
    Guaranteed Analysis:
    Crude Protein 27.0% (min.), Crude Fat 15.0% (min.), Omega-6 Fatty Acids* 2.2% (min.), Calcium 1.2% (min.), Omega-3 Fatty Acids* 0.3% (min.), DHA (Docosahexaenoic acid)* 0.05% (min.), Moisture 10.0% (max.), Crude Fiber 3.0% (max.), Phosphorus 1.2% (max.), Phosphorus 1.0% (min.), Zinc 150 mg/kg (min.), L-Carnitine* 30 mg/kg (min.), Selenium 0.4 mg/kg (min.), Vitamin E 150 IU/kg (min.).
    *Not recognized as an essential nutrient by the AAFCO dog food nutrient profile.
     
  19. Cynthia

    Cynthia Top Dog

    We feed the 4 Health performance to a few dogs

    Ingredients:
    Chicken, chicken meal, ground rice, cracked pearled barley, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), egg product, dried beet pulp, flaxseed, natural chicken flavor, fish meal, potassium chloride, salt, choline chloride, dried chicory root, glucosamine hydrochloride, chondroitin sulfate, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, yucca schidigera extract, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, biotin, niacin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin, vitamin D supplement, folic acid.

    Guaranteed Analysis:
    Crude Protein 30.0% (min.), Crude Fat 20.0% (min.), Omega-6 Fatty Acids* 3.3% (min.), Omega-3 Fatty Acids* 0.5% (min.). Moisture 10.0% (max.), Crude Fiber 3.0% (max.), Glucosamine hydrochloride* 600 mg/kg (min.), Chondroitin sulfate* 200 mg/kg (min.), Zinc 150 mg/kg (min.), Selenium 0.4 mg/kg (min.), Vitamin E 150 IU/kg (min.).
    *Not recognized as an essential nutrient by the AAFCO dog food nutrient
    profile.

    Caloric Content:
    4,019 kcal/kg (376 kcal/cup).


    Diamond Naturals Exreme Athlete

    Protein: 32% Fat: 25%
    Calories: 4,710 kcal/kg (470 kcal/cup) Calculated ME
    Sizes Available: 40 lb. and 6 oz. sample
    Ingredients

    Chicken meal, chicken, brewers rice, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), egg product, cracked pearled barley, powdered cellulose, dried beet pulp, flaxseed, natural chicken flavor, fish meal, potassium chloride, salt, choline chloride, glucosamine hydrochloride, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, chondroitin sulfate, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, biotin, niacin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin (vitamin B2), vitamin D supplement, folic acid.

    Guaranteed Analysis

    <TABLE class=listTable><TBODY><TR class=light_row><TD>Crude Protein</TD><TD>32.0%</TD><TD>Minimum</TD></TR><TR class=dark_row><TD>Crude Fat</TD><TD>25.0%</TD><TD>Minimum</TD></TR><TR class=light_row><TD>Crude Fiber</TD><TD>4.0%</TD><TD>Maximum</TD></TR><TR class=dark_row><TD>Moisture</TD><TD>10.0%</TD><TD>Maximum</TD></TR><TR class=light_row><TD>Zinc</TD><TD>150 mg/kg</TD><TD>Minimum</TD></TR><TR class=dark_row><TD>Selenium</TD><TD>0.4 mg/kg</TD><TD>Minimum</TD></TR><TR class=light_row><TD>Vitamin E</TD><TD>150 IU/kg</TD><TD>Minimum</TD></TR><TR class=dark_row><TD>Omega-6 Fatty Acids</TD><TD>3.5%</TD><TD>Minimum</TD></TR><TR class=light_row><TD>Omega-3 Fatty Acids</TD><TD>0.5%</TD><TD>Minimum</TD></TR><TR class=dark_row><TD>Glucosamine Hydrochloride</TD><TD>300 mg/kg</TD><TD>Minimum</TD></TR><TR class=light_row><TD>Chondroitin Sulfate</TD><TD>100 mg/kg</TD><TD>Minimum</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
    <SMALL>Calorie Content: 4,710 kcal/kg (470 kcal/cup) Calculated Metabolizable Energy.</SMALL>
     
  20. Cynthia

    Cynthia Top Dog

    There are slight differences like kcal per cup and protien/fat, fiber, and a few other thing.

    What is funny is we tried the Diamond on the same dog and he did shitty. Doing great on 4 Health.
     

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