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coon hunting with pitbulls?

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by kalenhcc, Jun 29, 2010.

  1. It was the first one under this same section on my screen,no digging involved.I wasn't talking about the dogs with the Yankee comment,it was probably unnecessary but I was talking about his passive attempt to belittle what I said referring to the history. This is a discussion forum why is everyone always saying you dug something up or should check a previous post, why not shed light on your most recent experience just for shitz and gigs?

    I was Just pointing out southern plantation owners had runaway slaves as a issue in their day to day lives, and used these type dogs to solve it. Why is it hard to believe they can catch a hot raccoon track, follow it to the tree, and exterminate it in a timely fashion?

    Staffs are undeniably related to apbts, and still being used to hunt fox .American Bulldogs are one of the best catching breeds; but have almost no strategy or stamina at all when hunting, thats why walk them up and use curs to stop the pigs before you release them. Proper terriers/fiest are endurance and extermination machines from the right lines.

    Tell me how this wouldn't equate to a dog similar to the ones we handle if; every breed that fits these loose definitions of all these types if were all game tested, and crossed depending on results in the pit for hundreds of years before even making it to the melting pot, where Americans continued the science project and eventually surpassed all the previous breeds being used for the same purpose?

    I like science, history,and dogs of a certain type.
     
  2. ziggy311

    ziggy311 Big Dog

  3. bluedoglover

    bluedoglover Top Dog

    my family has hunted raccoon for generations. coon dogs are even mentioned at our funerals. none of our walker hounds ever had real trouble killing a coon that got too feisty.
     
  4. kenitodrake

    kenitodrake Big Dog

    working with a pit bull in tracking isn't hard my dog started learning how to track at 10 weeks I let my grandpa train him with his coon pups just for fun and he turned out a good coon dog hes still a pup only 11 months only thing is he wont let you know when he found a trail but he will bark tree [​IMG]
     
  5. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    Good little storey and picture of King as hes maturing into a great looking bulldog...
     
  6. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    Coons can be difficult to deal with if you don't have the right dogs.Have seen a coon almost drowned a dog.
     
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  7. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    Coon is a bad motherfucker lol..Man this guy I know comes by the house one night bragging how good his coon dogs are and he talked me into going hunting with him that night.Ok so it's cold as hell and I threw some firewood on the back of the truck.I take him to a good spot where I know they at and some big ones to.So I say I'm gone get a quick fire going and you let the dogs go.Ok so we sittin there pullin off the jug waiting and about 45 mins goes by and I haven't heard shit.All the sudden I hear a noise and it was a dog yawning and stretching ,they had came back and was all piled up behind the truck sleeping.lol ..my last coon hunting trip.Its something I never got into that much.
     
  8. Red Cemtre

    Red Cemtre Big Dog

    xena pig.jpg pit hunt.jpg So I want to clear some things up, here in Australia we hunt feral pigs (or hogs whatever you want to call em) with dogs and a knife like some of you southern fellas. However, we don't use scent hounds, bay dogs, strike dogs, catch dogs, whatever. Each dog is expected to be able to scent and track a pig and then hold it until we arrive to dispatch it, by itself if needed. I have hunted with APBT's, both my own and people I know, that were more than capable of scenting and running down a pig over 1 mile (2kms) in thick scrub. To say they cannot make a good hunting dog is complete bull and I won't hear it because some of the best all round dogs I have seen (and I've seen all kinds) were game bred bulldogs. You need to socialize em young for the DA I will admit, but you can trash break em for sure. All our dogs only chase pigs and leave kangaroos, cattle, horses, sheep etc alone.
     
  9. Red Cemtre

    Red Cemtre Big Dog

    Also by the way, that chocolate and white bitch hanging on the front of that small pig was a bitch I bred and at 9 months old that was the first pig she tracked and caught herself. We let the other dog out for back up once she got a hold on the pig so she didn't get too beat up on her first go.
     
  10. edgar86

    edgar86 Big Dog

    we dont have coon here , just fox , do you think coon is tougher ?

    [​IMG]
     
  11. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    "Good little storey and picture of King as hes maturing into a great looking bulldog..."
    I give the kid a compliment not really believing his coon storey but admiring how the king jr was coming along and it must have been like a shot of adenaline
    as my little buddy ken was like fire through bushes starting threads every month and telling as many lies that he could, I hope we knocked him off his high horse and back to reality... What a bad way to start off so young and full of himself with out knowing any better as hes a kid and needs to change his ways to become
    an assit to the breed and not be another know it all that helps thier demise, and Ken my little buddy when grown folks are talking, listen...
    This thread is for real men that are hunting with thier bulldogs and those whom like to learn...
     
  12. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    great storey and thanks for sharing, the one and onlt time I went hoggin, the team I was with had two four wheelers, each with a bulldog in a dog cage...
    some times theyd let the longer male bulldog flush, run and catch and let a female loose to help, the female also caught as you mentioned but not such a distance... The male and female worked well beacuse by the time the male chased them down he wasnt able to catch so well be winded, but the bitch was all catch...

    I think alot of the hunters in the south use aother breeds for alot of reasons from thats how they were raised to thats what works for them in that area...
    Bayers are a part of that style of hunting such as what they would do with bears and big cats and seems effecient...

    If you go on east texas hogdog forum, there are as many styles of hunting pigs as thier are breeds of dogs utilzed for such and interesting to hear differnt takes on it...

    Your style of hunting RedCentre intrigues me as studing bulldogs are my main focus, but in so i cant say they are superior than others at that task...
    Thanks for sharing your cool experiences with us...

    Edgar Ive asked a few terriermen the same question, they will tell you Badger is baddest animal you dont want you terrier in a hole with...
    Coon are smart close quarters fighters and can grasp and grab, and bite terriers in a hole that might end up fatel, being nocturnal hepls in the dark as well...
    Not to mention all the desease, but even something as big as a retriever have been known to drown under a coons grasp...coons arent fast so fight is more the response than flight and if your dog makes it in thier den you better watchout...

    The fox will almost always flee and unless cornerned will escape... thier dens have multi tunnels leading in and out toavoid predators that make it in the narrow
    corridors, sure some fox will fight with all thier life and cause hell on your dog, but Ive only hear of one storey of a terrier dying in a fox set...
     
  13. bluedoglover

    bluedoglover Top Dog

    by far. the build, hands, and jaws of the coon make it far more dangerous. though i'd say if your dog wants the fox and he has all his shots, i'd let him have. things are a terror to cats and chicken.
     
  14. Red Cemtre

    Red Cemtre Big Dog

    Yeah, granted hunting styles here and over in the US are different, terrain, non target species, climate etc and that will influence breed choices. I currently only own a single dog since I'm currently living somewhere without a pig population and she is an old mixed breed bitch with only 1/4 pit blood that I kept only because she's been such a good dog for me over the years I couldn't bear to part with her.
    The key with any working dog, hunting, stock, bulldog etc is breeding from dogs that exhibit the ability you want. I'm certain when the people I got my dogs off first started hunting their pits it was pretty hit and miss, but after a few years of selective breeding they were producing consistent dogs that hunted well, and I can honestly say they are my favourite pure bred for pig hunting. Small and cheap to feed, but have the power and strength to pull up serious pigs. Are they the best? Well no, but I don't believe a "best" breed exists. You use what works for you in your own area and I think more importantly, what you like
     
  15. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    selective breeding is the choice words to get what your looking for, but can be done with success through selection...
    thanks for another fine post...
     
  16. edgar86

    edgar86 Big Dog

    i have badger and foxes in my garden , sharing same holes , but the badger goes out only at night , and the foxe he goes for a hunt outside .
     
  17. niko

    niko CH Dog

    Check out california catchers website...his patts make short work of coons
     
  18. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    very good outfit niko...
     
  19. niko

    niko CH Dog

    Yes sir:)....they could give a @*$t about papers as long as the dog works:)
     
  20. edgar86

    edgar86 Big Dog

    do you think a badger is a big challenge to an APBT ? can it seriously hurt the dog ? iam not talking about little cut on the face .
     

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