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Microchips

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by coco0889, Mar 17, 2010.

  1. pit4ever

    pit4ever Banned

    microchip..good? bad? thats the question.
     
  2. Old Timer

    Old Timer CH Dog

    Very bad...
     
  3. It's voluntary. I don't see a problem with it. All our dogs are chipped for identity purposes in case their stolen or run off. The chips have been very helpful to people in recovering lost or stolen dogs.

    We had an incident with a breeder that refused to return a dog and the chip was the reason we got him back. We don't have Pits so maybe that's a different situation with all the anti Pitbull idiots out there but for the most part, I don't think it's a bad thing to do.
     
  4. Lee Robinson

    Lee Robinson Big Dog

    I hope you realize that it's NOT voluntary everywhere. Some places require it. When I ship a dog overseas it is required there as well.

    Seat belts were voluntary at one time as well...then they became law in some areas, starting with just the front seats (even though kids are typically in the back)...now everyone (front and back) is required by law nearly everywhere to buckle up. I don't have a problem with seatbelts as it isn't a "private matter" although it should be personal choice for adults over 18 IMO. This is what will happen with chips in time. Voluntary until accepted by many people...then it becomes required by all.
     
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  5. JamesT

    JamesT Top Dog

    The only way i can see a microchip being beneficial is if your dog were stolen.And lost by the one who stole him,and then recovered buy animal control.A/C would scan the dog,get your phone# and call you.You would then have your dog back.Dog tags,would have been removed by the one that stole him,a brand wouldn't do a damn thing,and unless you tattoo your phone# in your dogs ear,a chip would be the best in that situation.
     
  6. Mine are chipped, mainly in case they get lost/stolen, my female rarely wears a collar as it irritates her neck. My male is from a shelter and was already chipped when I got him, however he always has tag and collar on. Like stated that is removable though.
     
  7. Jelet

    Jelet Banned

    Mistakes happen to careless, or lazy , or people with no smarts/dog knowledge.. If you are not lazy and actually truly care about your dog, and are smart(dog smart and common sense smart), then mistakes wont happen.
     
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  8. Old Timer

    Old Timer CH Dog

    Actually if you branded the animal it would be very beneficial, If you ran ads in the pennysavers in not only your county but the surrounding areas and it read something along the lines of "Lost or stolen male brindle APBT, Last seen with a black nylon collar and the letters DOG branded on his left hind leg" That is going to make a statement, If the person who stole it happens to be walking it down the street it is going to stick out like a sore thumb and if the dog is lost he is also going to stick out. Not only that but a person is more likely to pass the dog over if they see a big tattoo or a brand on him. Same can't be said of a microchip, Nobody knows it is there and it lays dormant until scanned.

    I know many a man who has branded there entire yard to keep track of them and one man in a high dog theft area actually never had a dog stolen due to the brands being put on his animals.
     
  9. Jelet

    Jelet Banned

    The chances of my dog getting cancer from the microship are X100 HIGHER. Than the chances of microchips being used in a court to prove that I am the owner of the dog or any other use that the microchip will have to me. Or the chances of my dog getting lost.

    So that means.....


    CONS outweigh the pros by a large amount of weight.

    I just dont see how someone will need to go to court to get there dog back unless that person is a dumb bitch.
     
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  10. Jelet

    Jelet Banned

    If my dog gets lost.(WHICH IS VERY VERY VERY VERY UNLIKELY) I can run and catch him eventually, would never loose sight of him. I am not a out of shape/lazy fuck. Or if he some how unlocks the padded lock/crate, unlocks the door, and opens the garage door. And gets lost on his own when I am not there. Then he has a proper collar on with dog tags with contact info
    Someone calls me. End of story.


    If someone brakes into my house etc. and steals him. And then brings him to the vet to get rabies or something. The vet will give the rabies shot with the guy in the room. The vet isnt going to be like "lol. o cool. a new CUSTOMER to my vet office. Let me take out my microchip gun and scan quickly when he has his back turned and check the names. even if he says his friend gave him this dog. hmm let me call the number on this chip to see if this guys story is really true. yep. i do this to all my clients. "

    no. just no. the vets dont do that. pure bs. when is the last time u seen ur vet do this when u took your dogs to the vet.
    Do what you want with your dogs.
    I do not care what happens to them.
    mistakes dont happen to REAL owners with knowledge and smarts.
     
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  11. tony413

    tony413 Big Dog


    heres a true statement

    THINGS DONT ALWAYS GO AS PLANNED.

    try to argue with that statement and your just proving how foolish you are.
     
  12. Oh no, PLEASE do not chip your pet! My little Yorkie, Scotty, is battling cancer right now...the tumor they surgically removed had another tumor attached to it with the chip inside! MANY stories just like his out there but the chip companies won't tell you the risks! Go to www.antichips.com for more info....coming soon, a new website with more info and a registration area so you can share pet chip reactions and deaths with other unsuspecting pet owners! Read about Leon, a French Bulldog that died from the cancer caused by the microchip here, http://www.noble-leon.com/ PLEASE DON'T CHIP YOU PET!!! Collar and tag won't kill them like the chip does!
     
  13. ElJay

    ElJay CH Dog

    thank you all for this good information. i will think twice before chipping any future pets. but as Lee stated earlier, sometimes it is required. it does have its pros. but i think considering, chipping should be a last resort. and no, tattooing will not necessarily help you reunite with a lost or stolen dog. but if you knowingly lose a dog (be it stolen or it somehow breaks free and runs off), it should be your first priority to alert all shelters within a decent radius to this fact. tell them about your dog's tattoo markings and to alert you if they receive a dog matching that description. it's just responsible ownership to do so. as much as i hate aspca and local shelters sometimes, it can pay to have a good relationship with them during situations like this. and a tattoo stands up in court as much as a microchip will if you're trying to reclaim a stolen dog. just provide the necessary documentation (i.e. picture of tattoo and vet records) and the dog is yours again, providing you find it.

    thanks again for the info....
     
  14. Kristin

    Kristin Big Dog

    You have to be careful with where you get the dog tattooed. This happened to my friends rabbits, but I've heard about it happening to dogs too. My friend breeds and shows rabbits and all of them have tattoos in their ears. Her whole yard of rabbits got stolen and eventually she got them all back, but they all had their ears cut off. Whoever stole them figured cut their ears off and their is no proof these were ever your rabbits. :(
     
  15. Kristi

    Kristi Big Dog

    where would u go to get a dog tattooed or branded? The vet?
     
  16. Old Timer

    Old Timer CH Dog

    Most vets will tattoo your dog, But to brand you have to purchase a cold brand kit. Anyone can order them and anyone can brand the dog. The cold brand method is totally painless and idiot proof.

    Word of caution though if you go to the vet for the tattoo, They are going to try to sell that microchip for all they are worth and some will outright not do anything for you if you do not take the chip.
     
  17. venom

    venom Top Dog

    probably not. I don't know if you need a vet to brand, its various methods using either heat or cold to do it. As far as tattooing, i don't think the vet has a tattoo gun handy lol. You could do it yourself if you wanted too. unless you know someone who tatts... but its not difficult to do. i made my first tattoo gun outa house hold shit, bought my next one on ebay for cheap then got them from all over.
     
  18. venom

    venom Top Dog

    wait, maybe i'm wrong lol
    i just read that they use "special" ink for dogs, and the dog needs to be put under to give it a proper tattoo on the inner thigh or ear. Lol, i did not know that. Don't know if its really necessary... they don't hurt that bad.
     
  19. Old Timer

    Old Timer CH Dog

    Oh you don't ever want to use heat on the dog, The dogs skin is way to thin and you will burn down real deep and have a big mess on your hands in a hurry.

    The cold method is the ONLY way to brand a dog.
     
  20. ATEXAN

    ATEXAN Big Dog

    Not no, but hell no to microchips. If your reasoning behind the chip is "lost or stolen" a tatoo inside the ear is much better. There are many different kinds of chips that use different scanners, and a small majority of vets actually scan for them and if their scanner doesnt work on your chip well then........
     

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