wolf cross game dogs

Your all lookin at it wrong a pit fight isnt about whether your dog or wolf or whatever can beat my bulldawg its about SCRATCHING and none of these animals yall keep bringing up scratch bottom line you wanna try startin your own breeds cool you wanna mix and match dogs with wolves cool just dont fool yourself into believing you could win in the BOX with them. I have a high respect for wolves and yes if one comes on your yard its very likely he will kill your dog on the chain i remember Pinky and the Brain in canada saying the same thing. But in the box as soon as you release him he will jump the wall winning the fight or not.

 

Finally someone with a brain enters the thread.

 

Well, if he won the fight scratching just wouldn't be necessary now would it?

 

LOL scratch to win dude!!! Wouldnt be the first time i seen a dog winning the fight the whole time and not scratch so yes no matter what you think its the scratching that wins a fight.

 

I think it would be a waste of time you can't improve the best dog in the world you mine as well get you a blue pit bull....

 

exactly what is the APBT lacking that you think you could get out of a wolf?? i just dont see anything positive coming from that

 

Well, erie I never said it wouldn't be.

 

Umm yes you did i mean not to be a dick but its only 4 posts up you said "Well, if he won the fight 'scratching just wouldn't be necessary' now would it?" Scratchin is ALWAYS necessary and should be your very first thing you wanna see out of any real bulldawg. Gameness should always be first and only gamedogs scratch.

 

Indeed, only four posts up.

You've misunderstood. A gamedog can't scratch if he was demolished by his opponent. The latter wouldn't have to scratch because he already wrecked whatever he was fighting. The stupidity of matching a dog uphill. As you said, wolves won't scratch even if they won or not...

 

Ok your right im still not gettin it lol!!! Scratch to win lol really does mean scratch to win even if you do wreck your opponent. Dont know where the matchin uphill came into it matching is done by weight maybe rolling uphill which i have done not the smartest thing to do but i got lucky my little 45 pounder not only handled a 13 pound bigger better bred dog but overwelmed him lol i like old sayings "its not the size of the dog in the fight its the size of the fight in the dog" The only difference in opinion i see we have is well you obviously put more stock into a dog that is rough while i will always always go for gameness first and if he happens to be a rough dog cool whatever it takes to get the job done but let me leave you with this that same 45 pounder i mentioned got his ass handed to him his last time out the other dog out wrestled him out bit him and ill be honest just outclassed him but when it came down to the scratch their boy gave everything he could and didnt have no more to give and quit on top winning the whole time cause in my boys head he wasnt losing the fight and thats how a game dog thinks. Which like i said b4 ill always go with gameness first.

Probably more then i should have posted but i wanted you to understand that Gameness is what seperates our dogs from every other breed out there not the damage they can inflict.

 

Dude. LOL.

I understand that scratching goes hand in hand with a gamedog.

I'm talking about this particular situation (this topic) with a larger wolf, dog or hybrid. Have you seen those videos on European video sites that show their large mastiff-type dogs ripping new holes in bulldogs? Well I shouldn't call them "bulldogs."

Anyway. That's what I'm talking about. Those people don't give a damn about weight differences, hell, they don't even condition the dogs beforehand. They just want to see a fight. They disregard cajun rules completely because it's useless with curs. I've seen videos where they simply allow the larger dog to kill the pit bulls.

Sorry if I wasn't clear.

 

And any dogman worth his fucking salt, could easily manipulate the situation make some early pickups and force scratches... wouldn't they?

Thats assuming if the wolf got dropped in the box first, he didn't just bail up over the wall and leg it, instead of charging across into the APBT in the first place.

 

It's been stated numerous times that a wolf isn't worth much in a box and I'd grow a third arm before I saw one scratch into anything.
However, if I bulldog decided to walk over an grab a wolf, and the wolf really wanted to stay there and end it, he could.

Not sure why this thread is even going, seems like you guys are re-arguing points for the hell of it.

 

not true... many matches with 150 pound kanagals , rotts , neo mastiffs , they jump the pitt and run from the 60 pound pitt. on smotri a 70 pound pit beat a 105 pound dogo in 4 min 30 seconds. whipes the floor with em

 

And when they don't run they are wrecked by the larger dog.

When they fight dogs of similar size, they tire a lot quicker. It's also easier to see "what they got." Two well matched gamedogs will wrestle, and trade holds, pushing themselves to the limit. Not those wind-less mastiffs. They're huffing and puffing 10 minutes in panting next to each other. Yet when they fight the weaker pit bull, it's a walk in the park. All they have to do is maneuver, avoiding the teeth and take the throat. (Like they would a smaller European wolf.)

The owners try to get them to fight but they usually refuse when they tire. Then some short fucker with bells on his dog's collar comes into the picture screaming "salam ya mom" and it's over.

 

beellls on his DOG LMAO you aint kiddin either... fukin bells

 

this tread makes me sick

 

like many others by the op this is a stupid thread.

i was thinking about crossing a hyena with a kangal ect ect ect.
load of crap

 

before i make another comment id like to start of by saying that was my very first post.ive been around for well over a year.reading every day.i love this site.but i gotta admit im losing face in the people that post.maybe im wrong but it seems like a whole new crowd.anyone that thinks a true apbt would be bested by a wolf or wolf dog more times then not is crazy.im no dog man but have been around these dogs for close to half my life.which isnt all that long but ive seen enough to know who is the almighty dog in this world.

 

I guess I'm just crazy to think an animal that can crush moose femurs can best a dog smaller than it more times than not.

The wolf's skull dwarfs the size of the apbt's skull, for one. The meaty flesh surrounding the apbt's skull and muscle surrounding the zygomatic arch and to the tip of the parietal chest gives an impression of a larger skull.