info Tom Garner

14 litters I was aways taught that you make a breeding to maintain or better your yard you sell some if you don't have the space to keep them all and I do mean SOME maybe he needs to cut back on those 400 bulldogs, now I'm by no means Tom G. (nor do I want to be) he at one time was one of the top dogmen in the Country but it doesn't take a rocket Sc. to see what this is....

 

what ever happened to mind your own damn business? there are so many judgemental folks on this board, some of you have a lot of nerve. you aint feeding nothing worth a damn and probably never will and yet you have the nerve to judge and question a legend in the game. mr garner takes very good care of his animals and has the resources to do what he is doing. he also has one the the greatest public stud line ups that allow newbies like most of you folks on this board to even own a great animal and not get someone elses garbage.

mr garner breeds bulldogs. if anyone wants to question what he is doing do it with him on the phone not on some random thread where he cant defend his name.

his web address is gamedog.info if any of you want to join and question the man go ahead. until then try having some respect.

 

It didn't look like any else answered so...the short of it was that there was a challenge within the ABDA world where it was alleged that some of the dogs that TG said were sired by Frisco were actually from other breedings. TG denied it, and the ABDA wanted him to to DNA testing on all of the dogs in question to prove it. He declined, and the ABDA stop registering dogs off of Frisco. So TG starts the Sporting Dog Registry.

 

lots of ignorance, animosity and possibly jealousy in this bibble babble.

 

I can't speak for anyone whos post is before mine but it sounds like you have a opinioun yourself don't put everyone in the same catagory I have taked to the man (for my part) me and an old partner sent a GOOD bulldog to him and got fucked but thats another story even with all that I still think he was a Great dogman but now it is what it is....

 

Just a reminder to NOT bash those who are not here to defend themselves...

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well, with such a reputable record it isn't hard to see why some people are all over his nuts. hope you're gettin paid.

 

You right, my words should really have stayed to myself I'm out of it I've had my say many years ago...

 

I think for the most part, most of us had said that if it were someone else we'd be leary of him, but considering its him, it makes things different. At least, that is what I got from the majority of the post. Though some were calling him out, seemed to be calling him out...
I wanted to make it clear I was not attacking him, seeing how his bloodline is the one that I most admire. I was agreeing with Frenchie, that if this were someone none of us knew, we'd probably not be as cool as it as we are with TG, but he has earn his reputation as a Dogman, no doubt.

 

Something happened along the same lines with us with one of by friends dogs and witha pup he was suppose to send us a dog a pup of our chooseing but he backed out and wanted to send us a pup from a diffrent breeding so we saide no to that. Dose anyone know if garner is still getting dogs from enrique down in mexico let me tell you those are some real good eli bred dogs

 

If you want a dog from Tom Garner I'd suggest talking to Tom Garner about it. One of the most interesting and intelligent people I've ever met, period. If I were planning to buy a dog he'd be one of the main people I'd talk to. And for the record he doesnt need to sell dogs to make a living either. Anyone who thinks he does has obviously never met the man. Or they are just jealous.

 

Sorry, double post.

 

I agree 100%. Tom puts more into the care of his dogs and pups then ANYONE I know. How many breeders have bred 90+ Champions+Multible show winners too numerous to count? Only one that I can think of, Tom Garner. I don't have but one dog that came directly from him, so I ain't really vested in that line of dogs, so I only speak on my observations and documented facts. I personally don't think you could go wrong with one of his dogs if you went to him and told him what you wanted and let him help you pick one.
Also if I was going to get a pup from him, I would probably want one out of Bolo. The one I have now is Double bred Ch. Dynomite, and I am very pleased with it.

 

i could care less about any previous dealings with mr garner. i happen to own a dog or two from his stock and im happy. all i can suggest to you and anyone else that has a problem, refer to my earlier post with his web address, and take it up with him. all you just did was add more speculatory feul to the fire. it is an ongoing repetitive cycle and its old. then to see newbies question and making remarks about the man, well ,thats just not the way i was taught to conduct myself in the dog game. i was taught to have respect.

 

you are a smart ass.

 

to answer your question, i am partail to bolo offspring, but thats just me. i would suggest bolo, el negro, or dynamite. i would reccomend a female that way if she doesnt turn on and is cold she can still be bred and you can deal with the offspring. good luck i dont think you will be dissapointed.

 

TG doesn't have 400 dogs on his yard. He usually has around 80 and tops out around 100. And it is a beautiful, well-maintained yard with well cared for and sociable dogs.

Also, I've talked to him in depth about how many dogs he breeds. He feels that there is plenty of room in the world for quality bulldogs, especially with the breed being under seige. He's very committed to continuing the various bloodlines. When I think about how many good dogs have been seized and killed, I can understand his point. If gamedogs don't continue to be produced, the breed will only continue to change for the worse. He also spends tons of money on proper care for his dogs and has endless hassles just like everyone else committed to this breed these days.

I don't think it's at all the same situation as random dude who stumbles on this forum saying "hey I want to get rich breeding pits" and gets blasted.

And to echo what others have said, he is very willing to share his wealth of knowledge, just give him a call.

 

I know this is going to make me sound like a dog nazi, but I subscribe to the "close the circle" philosophy. Breeding to sell to the public just doesn't appeal to me, no matter how good the dogs are. By that logic, other people with small, exclusive programs should increase their breeding so that folks outside the circle can get good dogs. I just don't buy that thinking. Let people buy whatever they want; they wont be able to say they got a dog from me if something goes wrong. Ready availability is one of the things that is destroying the breed, IMO.

Live and let live; I just have the right to disagree with it.

 

Personally, I like his stuff! I'm not going to pick sides and state that he is a peddler, making a business, and complain about how much he is making off his breedings nor am I going to post on this thread defending him!

What I am going to say is whatever you do on your own time is "YOUR" business. If theres something a person is doing on their time and it doesn't concern you than you don't need to know or complain about what they are doing. Live your life and let them live theirs. If it does offend you than "MAN UP" and go see Mr. Garner and tell him what your problem with him is.

 

This was said by a friend of mine. I agree with it and by definition, the person being trashed on this thread is not a peddler...and this thread sure does have a lot of crap talkers on it.


"I have always believed there should be breeders and doers, but sometimes you get peddlers. A peddler to me is someone who buys dogs of other people's work, breeds them and sells them, without ever really knowing WTF he's doing as a breeder, or without ever really trying to maintain some kind of physical standard in his produced offspring" (Friend)