Breeding outside of the APBT?

All breed types should meet thir perspective standard.....period. The excuse as to why they are not being met is b/c ppl lack the stomach or crumble under public pressure or they are just plain LAZY and have no Idea what it means to meet a standard!!!

I have pondered the Idea of messing with other breeds. Just dont like any particular one to dedicate my time to outside of the APBT.
Besides, if you know me....you know that I mess with plenty of hard luck cases so I'm not likely to be without any 4 legged friends. From reading your post do I respect what you are trying to do......NO, LOL. However it is you perogetive to do as you please....least till they tell you,you cant do it no longer.

 

To Mouser---


I have read the responses on this board and have a few questions.

You want a APBT in a terrier's body?
Why not the Patterdale?
Or do you want a DA Scottish Terrier looking thing?

You are breeding for looks and not performance?


To the forum OP- I think cross-breeding anything with the APBT can potentially be bad news.

 

PP...here is some info on the dog that I called the Catahoula Bulldog. Apparently it is more prevelent in the Southest...Louisiana especially. I have seen a few in TN. They are on the rare side, but http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/catahoulabulldog.htm

PS- Catahoulas (more commonly called Leopard Curs, or Catahoula Leopard Dogs around here) are bad dogs in their own right!

 

Bro, I live in Louisiana!LOL we call 'em catahoulas, never heard them called the other stuff sept on the inro net!LOL

 

soooo...........


You're TRYING to make mutts?

 

Mouser, my post wasn't directed at you personally. I was referring to the vast majority of people who use apbt's to create these "designer" dogs. Someone mentioned making outcrosses to apbt's in order to improve the dogs they have/use for legal hunting purposes. You see, these people are really utilizing these crossbreeds, the ones that don't make the grade usually don't end up getting bred. This is a different situation than most, who just crossbreed for $$$, notoriety or to have a "cool" looking "lowrider, bigheaded dog". The shelters across this country are getting flooded with these animals and it's these crossbred mutts that pay the ultimate price in the end.

 

you shouldnt be so hard on yourself!

 

Leopard Curs and Catahoulas are two different breeds.

 

What do I think?

No,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,NO! Ahhh...... I feel better.

There are already dogs like this Eddington dogs, and Most blue lines. Look what these lines have done to our dogs. Ruined the image people get when they think Pit Bull.

If you want a smaller APBT or similar type dog, get a Patterdale, or Staffordshire Bull Terrier.

If you tend to want a bigger dog, get an American Bulldog. Why would you need a Bandog, they are inconsistent and don't breed true.

The APBT is the result of many generations of hard work, ANYONE who wants to crossbreed for ANY reason is plain ignorant IMO. There are plenty of other breeds to fill your need, larger or smaller. If you don't like the APBT in it's true form, don't own one. If you think you need to cross-breed in order to own one, you don't deserve an APBT. And most importantly, if you think cross-breeding with a larger dog will make you look tough, stop trying to compensate for something that's missing. People who mix breed are trash just adding to the overpopulation problem.

There's my thoughts.

 

What do I think about this I would not do it in any way just to improve the breed or to make them look flashy its almost when like when you breed a show dog to a game dog the results my look nice but at the end the dog is not worth shit. I have seen this new breed that is poping up I think only two people are breeding them they call them shorty bulls its a mix of a pitbull,french bulldog,boston terrier, and pug they mosty look like a french bulldog it a small dog it dosent have any breathing problems shit they have this mutt on the site doing the spring pole they have 5 generations and now they are selling to the public I know a guy who has one out here in arizona. :mad:

 

My mistake...I'm guessing they are both from the same stock way back when (I'm guessing that applies to Mountain Cur, black mouth curs, etc.) I think the crosses are used mostly to get the territorial nature of the Catahoula's and the catch ability of the Ambulldog (and catchweight APBT in some areas).

 

Disgusting. I just checked them out on the net and wanted to puke. This is what I was talking about. Now, they have teamed up with the ABKC.... go figure.

 

chloesredboy, thanks for the info.. it is appreciated!! and to the person starting this post sorry if I stepped on your toes, it will take a little while for me to learn how to apply some of the rules

 

i'm thinking about breeding one of my male pitbulls to one of my female curdogs "not a curred out pitbull" talking about the breed cur, like a catahoula cur or blackmouth cur, to make a good hogdog, and i wouldn't try to peddle the pups as being one breed or another i'd prefer it if she just had a small litter that i could keep one or 2 and give a couple to my hunting buddies. figured i'd get a litttle bit more gamieness in em, and they go longer on a hog, and fight the hog more, and be stronger, and i've also heard that a pitbull has a better nose than a cur, i would'nt waste a female pitbull's heat for this breeding... i've been impressed with some dogs that i've seen that were half cur and had some kind of bulldog in em.

 

hrdeluxe, I'll anwser you questions best I can.

I agree, that's why you have to be judicious in your selection of breeding pairs, if a dog is unsound in body or mind they shouldn't be used. Mouser

 

im thinkin about breeding one of my apbt males to one of my catahoula females to make some hogdogs, i wouldn't waste a apbt females heat with that breeding, just want enuff pups for me and my hunting buddies to have a new generation of huntin dogs

 

i can't see my posts

 

Simms, I agree all breeds should meet their own standards, I want a different set of standards, for a different kind of dog. The one thing about pit bulls that I have always wished was different was their size. Several people have said there are 20 lb. dogs out there, well I have never run across any, at least that they wanted to sell. Since, I'm not into matching dogs, I'd prefer to have dogs that were less DA. From reading my post you can probably tell public pressure don't mean much to me, I sure haven't felt many friendly vibes. The lazy part, well I am a good ole boy from KY, and I don't get in any hurries, so I don't plan on breeding up a bunch of dogs, but rather I'm in it for the long haul. I realize it will take time to achieve what I'm after. I sure hope for all of our sakes that no one ever can tell me to stop, because if they can, they will have already told you first. One last thing to think about, as I told someone in a pm. AR people work to divide us, then take us down one little group at a time. Even if you don't agree with everything that people around you do, if you have common ground, you need to stand together. Big blue dog people, little shorty bull people, ban dog people, Am bulldog people, all love pit bulls, and most would stand in your defense, as I would. Mouser

 

to some people "gameness" can mean different things. ok!! some people say that's a game ass dog talking about a hog dog, i mean it not being scared, and having the stamina to go for a long time fighting with a hog... to still hold on to the hog cut all to hell!! we got on a big hog the other day, and two dogs were baying it, one was a black mouth cur, the other was a half pit, half cur... bot of em got cut pretty bad, which one do you think was still going after it, and which one do you think ran for the truck??? the half pit stayed on the hog till it couldn't move... and if that aint gameness than what the hell is??? a dog cut all to hell still getting after it. reason i made this post was because some jackass was criticizing me, in my comments part of my profile, saying do i know what gameness is?? i know that gameness can mean something ilegal too, which is something i personally don't do, but i'm not against either. what you do with your dogs is your buisness and what i do with mine is my buisness

 

Olered, there is a difference between gameness and heart...what your dog showed was heart.