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Corona

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by F.W.K., Mar 1, 2020.

  1. stickler

    stickler Banned

    Correct. It's less harmful then the common flu. I even believe/know that all viruses coming from inside our own cells.
    It just shows that the healing-process is working. Remember, it first has to get worse before it gets better ;)
    Well, pharma for sure doesn't like the idea, so they will give you some medicine to stop this/heal this.
    Diseases are not natural at all.
    It's just a lie, just like everything else.
    It's about keeping people in fear 8-|
    And btw my sarcasm does not go against you or your family. It's just about pharma lying ;)
     
  2. reids skipper

    reids skipper CH Dog

    Unless youve seen it first hand i don’t value your opinion ...I work with a fella that thinks like u stickler and thinks that its all a game and its done to crash the economy etc ... he’s known as been the local village idiot :)
     
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  3. Arrr man Liverpool full of it.
    not all places have got it though.
    its worser then the first wave,yet most kids are still in school?
    cant go out but the fckn kids are still in school!?!

    We all fckn ill with some shit.me,wife,kids..dont know what it is and dont wanna to be honest.
    i dont go by people anyway,even before this virus was even heard of i was very 'sociley distent' coz thats just me.im clostraphobec to fck.and i find people are far to close to each other.i mean theres no need to high five and hug yer buddy when you only seen him yeasterday.people are far to touchy feely.you get on a train or bus and some fcker sits that close to ya they mays well sit on yer knee.

    As for the vaccien ill give it a miss i think.
    i just dont trust none of this shit.first they spread a virus world wide thats more contaiges then the flu.
    then they make a billion zillion dolla vaccine.
    if the world cant see whats going on here then wow.
    proof in my eyes how the world is ran by a group of evil bastards,that look down at the people like were just slave ants.
    im under the impression all goverments world wide are in on this one.from there chairs its fool proof.
    the worlds population will be down,wilest the ones remaining become guinni pigs for this vile money making sceem thats a cost of humanity.

    sounds like a horror movie.
    i hope any body whos ill or there loved ones,old and young alike get better soon and fight this shit.

    Its Changed the world.but the world will recover.
    humans are a tough speices for sure,its in are dna to survire.

    All the best.
     
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  4. reids skipper

    reids skipper CH Dog

    See soze the thing that gets me is all these clowns that say its just flu ...I've never known flu make u lose your sense of smell or taste or come out in a itchy skin rash etc
     
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  5. Michele

    Michele CH Dog Super Moderator

  6. stickler

    stickler Banned

    Is this guy not known as a Nazi yet :-/
    Well, just in case you don't know yet, going against the Main Stream isn't easy ;):))
     
  7. stickler

    stickler Banned

  8. Michele

    Michele CH Dog Super Moderator

    How Do COVID-19’s Annual Deaths and Mortality Rate Compare to the Flu’s?
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    Mandy Armitage, MD
    Mandy Armitage, MD, is a board-certified physician, medical writer, and consultant with special interest in healthcare technology and education.
    August 27, 2020, 2:35PM (PT)


    People in the U.S. and around the globe are intently following news reports and other data about the COVID-19 pandemic. Most of us are eager to know when there might be an end in sight, but unfortunately, Americans continue to die at an alarming rate. The death rate decreased earlier in the summer but has increased again recently. According to data collected by Johns Hopkins University, over 180,000 people have died so far in the U.S. due to COVID-19.

    Many people want to know how the mortality (or death) data for COVID-19 compare with that of a regular flu season. But it may not be an “apples to apples” comparison, as you’ll see below.

    How are COVID-19 and the flu different?
    COVID-19, which stands for coronavirus disease of 2019, is an infection caused by a type of coronavirus called severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). The infection we know as “the flu” is caused by the influenza virus. Both are viral, respiratory illnesses, but they are not the same thing.

    Both coronavirus and influenza are spread by respiratory droplets and close contact. There are some other similarities between the two, including overlapping symptoms, which you can read about here. But because coronavirus and influenza are different viruses, a vaccine or treatment for one won’t have any effect on the other. In other words, the flu vaccine will not prevent you from getting COVID-19. That is one of the biggest differences between the two right now: A flu vaccine exists, whereas a COVID-19 vaccine does not.

    Other differences include length of time between infection and symptoms and how long the symptoms last.

    Coronavirus vs. flu deaths
    The first thing to know is that deaths due to COVID-19 and the flu are not counted in the same way. This means comparing the numbers isn’t as straightforward as we would like.

    Each death due to influenza in the U.S. does not have to be reported, so there is never a direct count. Each flu season, the CDC estimates deaths from the flu based on in-hospital deaths and death certificate data. They continue to update the data on their website as they collect it. Therefore, numbers from the last two flu seasons are not considered final just yet.

    Conversely, each death due to COVID-19 is being recorded. The numbers you see and hear about are not estimates. So you can see how comparing mortality rates between the two isn’t exact at this point.

    That said, here’s a quick look at the number of cases and deaths for the last two flu seasons (again, not final) and COVID-19 to date:

    2017-2018 Flu 2018-2019 Flu COVID-19
    Cases 45 million 35 million 5 million
    Deaths 61,000 34,157 180,000+
    Breaking down the data
    As with most topics in epidemiology, interpreting the numbers is complex. The data should be sound before any comparisons can be made. For example, health organizations are collecting data on COVID-19 differently. Should they look at only confirmed cases? Or also probable cases? How do they account for undertesting, especially in the first few months of the pandemic? Or delays in reporting?

    Additionally, there are differences in how the numbers are reported. For example, this dashboard reports data collected from various state and county health departments, whereas the CDC uses a different process to confirm deaths before reporting.

    But there are other ways to evaluate the numbers. In the spring of this year, this paper found that weekly death counts of COVID-19 were much higher — on average 20 times higher — than weekly deaths from the last several seasons of the flu at its peak.

    Fortunately, weekly deaths from COVID have decreased in recent months. As you can see here, recent weekly deaths in the U.S. are not as high as they were in the spring, which is obviously good news. The decrease in the number of deaths is likely due to better protection of people over 65 years old, earlier diagnosis, and better treatment.

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    Flu vs. COVID-19 fatality rate
    Mortality rate measures how frequently people die in a specific population during a specific time period. One way of looking at that is with the case fatality ratio. This is the proportion of people with confirmed cases of a particular condition who die due to that condition.

    According to this dashboard, the case fatality ratio of COVID-19 in the US is 3.1%. The case fatality rate for influenza will obviously change year to year. But news reports and the World Health Organization often estimate it at around 0.1%. While the medical community is still learning about mortality from COVID-19, it does appear to be more deadly than the flu.

    There is obviously a wide range in COVID-19 case fatality numbers by country. This can be due to many things, such as how much testing is going on, the age of the population, and access to healthcare. For example, if more people are being tested, the case fatality ratio will decrease.

    It’s also too early to determine anything about seasonal patterns, since this pandemic has been going on for less than a year. What we do know is that certain people are at higher risk for complications, including death, from COVID-19. This is true of the flu as well. When comparing COVID-related deaths in different geographic areas, it becomes clear that age plays a role. In addition to older age, certain medical conditions can increase people’s risk for having more severe disease and complications (including death).

    The bottom line
    Although COVID-19 and influenza may look the same to some people, they are definitely not. The COVID pandemic continues to be a danger to public health and should be treated as such.

    If you think you might have COVID-19 or the flu, it’s best to limit your contact with others for the time being to avoid spreading your illness. Contact your healthcare provider to inquire about next steps and testing. Read here for more information on when to seek immediate help for symptoms.
     
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  9. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    It is 100% worser then the flu.

    If it walks like a duck and look and sounds like a duck then it is a duck.

    @reids skipper, a speedy recovery wished for your daughter from overhere.

    Better safe then sorry,so be becarefull out there you'll.
     
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  10. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    I am definitely going to wait to see what happens when other people take it.
     
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  11. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    and then I still may not take it.
     
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  12. stickler

    stickler Banned

  13. Michele

    Michele CH Dog Super Moderator

  14. stickler

    stickler Banned

    You wanna bet on this ?
    Will give you 2:1 :-?B-)
     
  15. stickler

    stickler Banned

  16. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    I know when a bulldog bite me in the ass it will hurt, I know when you get infected with Covid-19 and not that young and healthy anymore that there is a fair change you'll end up dead.
    Better save your money Stickler for the times ahead of us.
     
  17. stedz

    stedz Top Dog

    This thing is very real,anybody who thinks any different is fucking delusional, my partner works on a covid ward,she will come home one day thinking a patient is over the worst of it,after weeks in itu,2 days later they are back in itu,a week later they are DEAD fucking fact.There are other issues that dont even make the news,like patients having toes amputated etc.I know there are a lot of conspiracy theories about one thing and another these days,but i am sorry, given all the evidence these people are just attention seeking morons.
     
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  18. stickler

    stickler Banned

    But what is safe when we are not young and healthy anymore ?
    Time is changing, we will live a healthy life and we will grow older in the future.
    The technology is already there.
    About the bet, well, I will pay for a beer or wherever you like when it's over, no matter how this will end :-B
     
  19. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    As said before,better safe then sorry.
    It is not that hard to wear a mask in public and so on till the vaccine is there.
    And we'll shal downing pints with each other in the near future ! 3 -1 on that one.
    Cheers !
     
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  20. stickler

    stickler Banned

    But I can tell you it's hard to not wear a mask in public. I know. Today again.
    I say no to those face-diapers :D
    What about kids ? How healthy is it to them wearing a mask at all times ?
    Well lots of info about that can be found on the net, why not at the msm ?
    Here is something for you :)
    Den Haag vandaag
    https://mobile.twitter.com/viruswaarheid/status/1330196603462950915
     

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