College Football

I agree here Slim.Its not a talent issue though ,IMO it's a coaching issue.Ask yourself this question excluding Nick Saban .What SEC coach would you want ? As I said don't include Saban.Not including Saban I will rank the ACC ,Big 10 and even the Pac 12 higher than the SEC because of coaching.IMO ..Once again ,I don't think it's a talent issue.And man what the hell happened to Ole Miss ? <<<< H Freeze stock was higher than any of the new Coaches in the whole country ,where is he now ?

 

Mediocrity at the Coaching level is what's wrong with the SEC!

 

All this time I didnt know that!

 

I'm going to give the ACC the nod above everyone from a coaching stand point.2 National title winners with Jimbo and Dabo.One of the best is at Duke with David Cutcliff ,he is a outstanding coach.Ole Miss biggest blunder was firing him.He was the coach at Ole Miss when Eli Manning was there and the year after Eli left Ole Miss had a off year.Was nothing to panic over,you were only 1 year removed from one of the best QBs in Ole Miss history.May have been the best as I haven't checked the records.Watch out for Miami with Mark Richt ,<<<< he can recruit and he is a good coach.Virginia Tech seems to have found a good coach..NC State is another team I think will be much improved next year.ACC is loaded right now with good coaches ,don't expect them to go away any time soon.Talent is one thing but it takes a coaching staff to put it all together.ACC is in good shape,I could have named a couple more with N.C. ,B.C., ...I jut can't remember all the teams right now lol.ACC is going to be around for a while and they have passed the SEC..

 

I think Michigan is going to be a monster for the next decade or so.... I am a huge BIG 10 fan. ^^ I hate that ppl think the division is over ranked. Put some of the power house teams from the SEC and ACC in the BIG 10. One could say vice versa..how do you think OSU,Mich,Wisc,PSU wpould do in another division?

BTW good post bama...there are some really good coaches in the ACC

 

Penn State did lose to USC and Wisconsin barely beat Western Michigan...Michigan lost to Florida state who had 3 losses on the season and Ohio State got smoked from Clemson.I really wanted to believe the Big 10 was good but the results speak for themselves Pro

 

Last 2 yrs the Big 10 in the playoffs ,score is 72 to 0 .....I do think the Big 10 overall is improved though Moe.Good points Niko.

 

See here is the thing,we are talking a bowl game played a month or so after the season ends in the middle of the winter. Ofcourse a FSU,USC,BAMA and Clemson are going to have an advantage. Weather is huge especially with the layoff....btw if mich didn't turn the ball over on their final poss. and penn st played a little more def in the 4th it could be a different story. Reguardless both were really good games. LOL I have no excuse for OSU they looked flat and stale.
Here is what I am saying... as slim made the point about the "uglies up front" . I don't think these speed teams can handle week in an out in the big 10. they might beat a Michigan ranked in the top 5 but next week lose to Northwestern or MSU . My main point here is I think that its ALOT harder to go undefeated in the big 10.

 

OSU had same prob as Bama did this year Moe.Neither were good in the passing game which left them one dimensional.I think Bama was ranked 81st in the country in passing and OSU was 82 nd.Not enough balance , you got to have balance on offense when u reach thr playoffs.Clemson had better balance than bama and OSU.

 

I don't think weather is much of a issue this time of year.I mean sure if we are talking 90s with high humidity.All the playoff games were in domes if I'm not mistaken.

 

It would be worse for a team in the South to play up North this time of year.As far as a Noth team going South,I just don't think it matters unless it's September.Temps are pretty mild in the South this time of year.But for sure a Southern Team traveling up North right now would be in for a surprise.

 

bama what do you think the weather is like in the upper Midwest during the end of Nov and in Dec? Snow and windchills of -20 a lot of the time. what would you be doing that time of year during a 5-6 week break between games? that's the advantage I was talking about. not the actual weather during the game. not an excuse but I think it does play a factor.
goes along with my post above..i would liked to have seen Clemson or Bama play Wisc schedule this year or Vice versa. would be interesting

 

I see your point moe but thier is no way we can ever do this.You could say the same about putting Wisc in the SEC.Temps still high in Sept and even Oct.This is why we have the bowl games and the playoffs.We have the playoffs in a dome and it takes weather out of the circumstances and puts the 2 teams in a eaual inviroment.Thier is no advantage for eigher team as far as weather.I think everything is pretty equal.What we see rise to the top in bowl games and playoff is coaching and talent. But I do see your point .Like I said u could put Wisc in the SEC in sept and early oct.Bama played Texas A&M and this was 3 yrs ago at Texas A&M and it was like 100 degrees that day in October.Bama beinv the visiting team was in the sun the shole game.Yep I mean you fun off the field to cool off and no shade .Nasty environment. And it showed as the bama players were cramping up.But yex they still beat the shit oug of TAM.I could give you many more examplez of brutal enviroments such as this one.Heat is a motherfucker as we all know.

 

ok u don't have to watch the whole clip to see my point Moe.Watch the beginning when Vern and Gary are talking and look at the opposite sideline .That was bama sideline and it was 100 degrees that day.TAM sideline was in the shade.The game was last year not 3 yrs ago.

 

I think you are missing my point Bama on weather. The 5-6 week layoff when its average is 10 degrees with snow,rain and sleet. IMO there is an advantage being in a warmer climate..folks tend to get a little lazy when its shitty out. Practicing in a gymnasium isn't the same as being on the field. Not an excuse as both teams should be prepared. (I know you are familiar with the weather in Michigan...the lake effect can be a mofo!) I get that they play in a dome or in nice weather for the actually bowl game but its the time before the game. The layoff when its horrible weather. It would be different if there weren't a layoff and the teams were still playing every week.How do you think Clemson/Bama would do in 10 degree weather with snow Vs a Wisc,Mich,OSU when they have been in sunny 70s for the past month. Do you think there is an advantage there? I would think they would be rip,rouring and ready to go considering it has been nice great weather.