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Mayweather vs Ortiz (whos gonna win)

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by bukskin.banks, Jul 9, 2011.

  1. venom

    venom Top Dog

    This fight is old news now... but I can definitely tell a lot of peoples opinions of what happened is based on their previous dislike for Floyd. Had it been their favorite fighter, or even if the roles switched they would be happy Floyd lost and screaming that it was legal, the ref counted floyd out, not ortiz's problem, floyd should have been DQ'd anyways for the headbutt he is a low life peice of shit etc etc.
     
  2. venom

    venom Top Dog

    Don't lie, most of you would still have a smile on your face today if Ortiz did Floyd like that lol
     
  3. venom

    venom Top Dog

    [video=youtube;x5Co10YJuyE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5Co10YJuyE&feature=player_embedded[/video]

    Refs take on the fight...
     
  4. NGK

    NGK Top Dog

    I dont think the dispute is the legality of what happened, the dispute is the level of class of Floyd Mayweather jr. and how he chose to show it in this fight.
     
  5. Texican

    Texican Big Dog



    Absolutely.....
     
  6. The Manc

    The Manc Pup

    simple mayweathers the best!
     
  7. RRL

    RRL Top Dog

    Replay tonight on HBO with an after match 24/7.
     
  8. Ortiz took it to the street..so he should of kept it in the street!! Dont try and kiss and hug after your "flying mule headbutt" Ortiz is one dirty mfer.
     
  9. NGK

    NGK Top Dog

    Agreed!!! But, over the years a great many fighters have been considered "pound for pound the Best In The World", Sugar ray Leonard was one and he did not resort to cheep shots even when confronted with unclassy and cheep bullying tactics, he simply made one of the greatest of all time quit, can you name that fighter? Hint... "No Mas"

    Evander Holyfield had his ear bit, not once but twice, did he get unclassy? ( I expect a few with headbutt comments here) I would say no he didn't.

    My point is this, if Mayweather wanted to show that he was the best he should have schooled Ortiz and knocked him out in a Classy Manner, how many of the ortiz fans would have given him props for doing so I cannot say but I would bet that the great many would not dispute Mayweathers abilities had he done what I stated above.

    Having said that maybe Floyd doesn't give a rats ass, hes gangster, hes a bad man etc...

    I think I speak for the majority of Boxing fans when I say that this is a blemish on the sport and considering that the sport is dieing, the last thing it needs is another bad example of sportsmanship that enrages the fans and media.

    NGK
     
  10. venom

    venom Top Dog

    You kidding me? Evander got his ear bit cuz he was a dirty mother fucker. he head butt mike trying to knock his lights out over and over. So mike bit his ear out of frustration. Its not a belmish... dirty shit happens all the time. I aint hear no shit like "this is a blemish" when zab straight up punched floyd in the nuts intentionally. You got guys cheatin with wraps... puttin plaster and shit in their gloves... trying to take guys out with repeated head butts and low blows... and you think the way a guy won was a blemish on the sport?? Lol
     
  11. NGK

    NGK Top Dog

    Listen venom I expected the headbutt comment, yes Holyfield led with his head to keep mike outside but frustrated biting in a boxing match? I'll leave it there.

    You mentioned alot of illegal tactics and yes it does happen but the question is about the CLASS of someone who is supposed to be THE BEST POUND FOR POUND BOXER IN THE WORLD.

    Why can't the Mayweather fans just admit that the way the fight ended was a joke? If the man is suppose to be so damn good why didn't he show it and teach Ortiz a lesson with a good old fashioned beating that resulted in a CLASSY and DOMINANT win, we all saw he was ahead and we all saw he could have done it, why didn't he?

    I stand by my words in my previous post and refute the Mayweather dick riders argument that this was just business in the sport as I am a big fan of the sport and this fight was a joke at best!!

    NGK
     
  12. RRL

    RRL Top Dog


    Agree 100%.JC Chavez is still rated as one of the greatest PFP fighters of all time,even with the gift win over Meldrick and the draw with Sweet Pea.Tyson is loved among most boxing fans no matter what for what he could have been.SRL is loved and hated among boxing fans to this day.Hopkins is one the most dirty fighters and will go down as an all time great.What Mayweather did will just sell more tickets to "casual boxing fans" and those who want to see him lose.Mayweather may be the best at selling a fight since Ali.HBO's 24/7 replay of the fight was THEE COOLEST thing I've seen in a long time.Hope they do that when Floyd and Manny fight.
     
  13. venom

    venom Top Dog

    More like evander was just dirty and was just as dirty in the first fight... how many times did the ref have to break for a head butt? how many times was he headbutted and elbowed and how many cuts did he recieve from it? and i think it was a couple low blows too. evander was dirty in both fights.

    As far as admitting the way the fight ended was a joke? Might not be what some people paid to see... but floyd fights dont ever end in a spectacle! They're always the same... and looking at the stats from those first 4 rounds it was going to be just another mayweather fight with him landing twice as many punches and power punches as his opponent while throwing less. I dont remember the exact stats but i believe mayweather landed like 70 somethin punches already compared to ortiz's 25??? LOL. It wasnt gonna be no different than the rest... they are all BORING.

    I would have knocked the man out too in the same way... You say Sugar and all of them greats wouldnt have ended the fight that way?? I bet you they would if the man left his hands down.
     
  14. venom

    venom Top Dog

    yea that 24/7 was pretty neat. ortiz took that loss like a man for sure though, he didnt cry about it... in his words it was "a learning expereince". but I probably wouldnt be complaining either cuz his jump in pay from his last fight to the mayweather fight was well worth it lol
     
  15. RRL

    RRL Top Dog


    Ortiz promoter was pretty pissed about the butt lol.Making Ortiz re-wrap his hand was pure Mayweather camp tactics at work.Re-watching I really think Ortiz just got over exited and really was sorry,but he's just not a "thinking fighter" hahaha.
     
  16. NGK

    NGK Top Dog

    I would take that bet but we will never know, Mayweather is afraid of the power and ended it because he didn`t want to take that chance. Lets see if he fights Manny, and if so lets make a side bet I have a dollar on Manny.

    NGK
     
  17. RRL

    RRL Top Dog


    I got $500 on Floyd.What do you think NGK?
     
  18. RRL

    RRL Top Dog

    You could send the $500 via Paypal gift.If hell froze over and Manny won I'd pay up same way!
     
  19. Dude please! Some people live just to hate..and its serious disease in todays society!!! WE ALL KNOW ITS A DOUBLE STANDARD WHEN IT COMES TO FLOYD!! I'm not going to go off into some huge rant but FUCK PACROID!!! There trying to send Barry Bonds to jail just for swinging a BAT!! but yet this mfer is Pacroid wont take RANDOM OSDT and is coming up with every excuse in the book but yet nobody says shit(In a contact sport)!! This mfer jumped 5 weight classes in 3 years and has been knocked out twice by smaller guys.....but now all of a sudden he's superman! GTFOH!!!
     
  20. joelkckit

    joelkckit Big Dog

    LISTEN EVERYVBODY PACMAN DON'T USE STERIOD. HE ACHIEVE HIS SPEED, POWER, SKILLS TRU HARD WORK AND FAITH IN GOD. LIFE IS VERY HARD IN THE PHILIPPINES AND U MUST HAVE TO SURVIVE HERE. WHAT I MEAN PACMAN CAME FROM POOR FAMILY MEANING HE HAS ENCOUNTER A LOT OF HARDSHIP IN LIFE. FLYOD IS MAKING A LOT OF BLABLABLABLA FOR NOT FIGTHING PACMAN. HE ALSO BELIEVE HES THE POUND FOR POUND...... TO ALL WHO THINKS THAT PACMAN USE ROIDS! f**k y**! SORRY BUT I HAVE TO DEFEND OUR NATIONAL PRIDE. WHY DON'T U ACCEPT PACMAN IS GIFTED AND HE USES HIS GIFT IN A GOOD WAY BY SHARING WHAT HE HAVE FOR THE LESS FORTUNATE.... ZERO RESPECT FOR FLYOD! SORRY BUT I TO SAY THAT. PEACE!
     

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