Dirt on the HSUS

Dream Pits · Apr 23, 2010

For my final project im doing a report on the HSUS. I know there is alot of there but I'd appreciate any info anyone has access too. If its from a credible source even better. If you get it offline or from a video please leave a link. Thanks
-Still Dreamin

ReleaseTheHounds · Apr 23, 2010

KC DOG BLOG: HSUS

HSUS: The Disingenuous Fundraising Machine

Editor's Note: The timing of this may seem a little odd, but I wrote this a couple weeks ago and am just now getting around to posting it. I think it still applies -- heck, it always applies. But was reminded about this late last week when I got another fundraising email. Anyway....

Why is it, that when it comes to the Humane Society of the United States it seems as if it is always about the money?

Now, don't get me wrong, I know that fundraising is important. We all need money to help our cause. Rescues need money to save the lives of animals. Lobbying groups need money to lobby, get politicians elected, get bills pushed through.

I don't mind organizations raising money. What bugs me is when they raise money for one thing, and then use it for another.

And that's my (most current) beef with HSUS. They keep asking for money, but what animal-loving people give them money for, in good faith that animals will benefit from the money, and what they use the money for, never seem to exactly add up. And for that, I am growing tired of the Humane Society of the United States.

Just in the past few years, HSUS has sent an email requesting donations to "care for the dogs seized in the Michael Vick Case" -- even though HSUS was not actually caring for the dogs and was simultaneously lobbying for all of the dogs to be killed.

A little over a year later, HSUS sent another email requesting that people donate just 66 cents a day to help dogs "just like Faye" in the new year -- using pictures of a dog named Fay (not Faye) that was rescued from a dog fighting bust orchestrated by the Humane Society of Missouri andFay, herself, was being cared for by a small rescue Mutts & Stuff in St. Louis. Of the $1.2 million raised by HSUS in their fundraising drive for 'dogs like Fay', the actual organizations caring for the actual dogs received only $5000 for their care.

Meanwhile, HSUS seems up to their old tricks again.

After the major earthquake in Haiti last month, HSUS was quick to get someone on the ground with a request to help the animals in need in Haiti.

A quick look at the email (left, click to enlarge) mentions the need for money:

"But the conditions for animals are still deteriorating. In our short time here, I've seen cattle wandering through fields and stray dogs by the roads."

Wow. Cows in fields? Stray dogs by roads? Sounds like Haiti on a good day...or rural America for that matter.

HSUS's quest for funds raised the ire of many -- including Friends of Animals and their arch nemesis, Center for Consumer Freedom.

I confess that I don't know a lot about the key players from the Center for Consumer Freedom...but I will say this. When they criticized HSUS about the use of money collected for helping animals after Hurricane Katrina, HSUS responded to the lawsuit by building a fancy new shelter for the the state of Louisiana. Now, amidst this criticism from the CCF, Wayne Pacelle has once again responded not by denying anyof the allogations....but, wait for it, by asking for money. The CCF may have questionable motives (or not), but they seem to always be right about HSUS.

Now, again, my beef with HSUS isn't that they raise money. We all have to. But that they continue to raise money from unsuspecting donors and then using the money for something else.

In 2008 (the most recent annual report available), HSUS spent $28 million of their $125 million budget on fundraising -- $28 million on political campaigns and $12 million on "strategic communications'. They also banked a significant amount of money (again) that they are using for other things: Like apparently buying tons of stock in restaurant chains like Steak and Shake and Jack in the Box -- with the idea that their ownership will influence purchasing decisions regarding chicken, eggs and pork.

I'm not even going to say that I think this is a bad use of money necessarily (it would actually be a fun debate sometime) - but here's the deal, in all of the emails that go out asking for money, in all of the posts on Wayne Pacelle's blog, never once have I been solicited to donate money to buy shares in fast food restaurants. Not once. Seems I only find out about it from reading morning e-newsletter from Nation's Restaurant News (which I do get BTW, don't judge me). Seems like with that much money getting put to that use, it probably should have come up in communications from HSUS.

Nope, it's not so much the fund-raising I mind....or even that they spend most of their money on more fundraising and lobbying...it's that I don't feel like they are at all honest with their donors on where the money is going . I think it's important that well-meaning people who in good faith want to give money to help save the dogs from Mike Vick's Kennels, aren't misled into giving money to an organization that is pushing for the dogs to be killed, or that when people give money to help "dogs like Fay", more than a fraction of a percent of the money raised will go to helping the actual dogs, and when people give money to help animals in Haiti, their money is not used to buy stock in fast food restaurants.

It's disingenuous at best...fraudulent and illegal at worst
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ReleaseTheHounds · Apr 23, 2010

Pit Bull Blog HSUS

(I suggest you follow the links for research purposes, many supply reference links)

Animal Rights, Animal Lovers, Pit Bulls and Peanut Butter
Filed under: PIT BULL BLOGGS — Tags: animal rights, HSUS, peanut butter, PETA, pit bulls — bahamutt99 @ 4:01 pm

by Lindsay B. (aka bahamutt99)

I was browsing the message boards tonight, as I always do, and came across a topic regarding a new HSUS (Humane Society of the US) stamp with a patch-eyed Pit Bull featuring the text “I’m a lover, not a fighter.”

While the general consensus was appreciation for the design, there was also resistance to buying a stamp that would support HSUS. One member even commented on how real animal lovers aren’t supporting animal rights groups, such as HSUS and PETA.

So why the discrepancy? Why would anybody who claims to love animals be against a group who claims to want to help animals?

There is a massive difference between animal rights and animal welfare, and therein lies the rub.

Animal welfare: The desire to protect animals from unnecessary pain, suffering, abuse and mistreatment.

Animal rights: The desire elevate the status of animals to one equal to or greater than humans. Also the desire to see animals freed from any useage whatsoever. This includes service animals, private pets, animal-based medical research and products, as well as eating meat or using any animal by-products. The ultimate goal of the animal rights movement is total animal liberation.

Most animal lovers support animal welfare, which is all well and good in my opinion. The desire to protect animals from unnecessary bad things is a noble goal. Nobody should want to see animals hurt, beaten, tortured, neglected. And admittedly, the ideal of animal welfare probably steps into some grey areas, such as cosmetic surgeries (ear cropping, tail docking). That is going to happen; no two people will ever agree 100% on everything. But by and large, the animal welfare sect has its head screwed on right.

Animal rights, by my scary stuff scale, is a much more frightening proposition.

With rights come responsibilities. You have a right to free speech, but you have a responsibility not to shout “fire!” in a crowded theater. You have the right to bear arms, but you have the responsibility not to shoot innocent bystanders. Animals have no grasp of our society’s laws, and therefore don’t understand what their responsibilities would be now that they have these newfound rights.

Additionally, animals are like children in that they cannot dictate what would be the best decisions for them. Undoubtedly, if my dog were given the right to choose what she wanted to eat for dinner, she would demand whatever I was eating, and that’s hardly the choice that’s going to keep her the healtiest. We have a responsibility to take care of the animals we’ve domesticated, since they cannot care for themselves. They cannot simply slide into this idyllic scenario that the animal rights crowd envisions for them.

I think one of the reasons many people support animal rights is simply our tendency to take things at face value. We don’t want to get into the nitty gritty of things. Many of us would prefer to stay plugged into the matrix, and have our reality be the sugar-coated version, rather than seeing the ugly truth of things. Its far neater and less painful that way.

I compare the animal rights movement to peanut butter.

To the average American, there is nothing more wholesome than a good ol’ peanut butter and jelly sandwich, with a nice cold glass of milk. Make mine on wheat bread, lightly toasted, please.

But how many of us really read the ingredients and know what they signify? I mean, this is what we’re feeding ourselves and our kids, so it should be healthy and nutritious, right? Vitamins and minerals, protien and all that, right?

How about partially hydrogenated vegetable oil? That stuff kills you. But how many parents feed it to their kids as lunch or an after-school snack, without even bothering to look at the side effects?

Animal rights are the same in that people will support and buy into the feel-good portion, without bothering to read the ingredients. They hear “helping animals,” “saving animals,” “protecting animals,” but they do not hear “ending pet ownership,” “torching research labs,” “supporting domestic terrorism,” “sending people in pig suits to educate children against eating meat,” or any of the other bad portions.

Animal rights is scary. HSUS, for example, makes millions, but does not operate a single animal shelter. They could be saving countless lives, but instead they concern themselves with pushing for the destruction of Michael Vick’s dogs, while on the other hand begging for money to care for them. (HSUS didn’t have custody of any of Vick’s dogs. I wonder where those donations went?)

For my fellow APBT owners, I offer this tidbit as well: These organizations which claim to be about protecting animals do not extend their dubious sanctuary to our breed.

HSUS takes a PC approach to their philosophy. They don’t support breed bans. No no no, of course not. They only support local ordinances to spay/neuter the breed into extinction. That’s the kinder way to eliminate something, and its HSUS’s way of giving “extra protections” to Pit Bulls. They indicate that if you have a Pit Bull and want to keep all of its parts, you have the dog for the wrong reason, and are contributing to the abuse of the breed.

PETA is more open about their philosophy: Just eliminate the breed and be done with it.

It seems as if owning a Pit Bull means you must be more politically aware. Because we are considered the weakest link in the chain, and therefore make an easy target for the animal rights movement. Divide and conquer. Lord knows I wasn’t politically aware prior to getting into this breed.

However, animal rights isn’t just against our breed. It is against dog ownership in general. And not just dog ownership; it is against many things traditional to our culture, and many things we have come to enjoy and embrace. It isn’t just about no more hunting or fishing, no more meat or fur.

Own a dog? Cat? Goldfish? Horses? No more of that. Its exploitation.

No more agility trials, conformation shows, weight pulls, tracking trials, search and rescue. After all, no self-respecting dog is going do those things voluntarily, and corrupting his right to free choice is abuse.

Do you have an incurable disease? You’d better hope the answer isn’t dependent upon a laboratory mouse, because they have a right to not suffer or die for our betterment.

Horse carriage rides? Please. Petting zoos for children? As if. A dog to guide your blind kin? Get real.

These are the hydrogenated oils of the animal rights movement. They hook you with the peanut butter — SAVE ANIMALS! — but you can’t enjoy the PB without ingesting the stuff that will kill you.

If you support animal rights organizations, you are supporting everything they do, not just the stuff that you are in favor of. You can’t join up because you appreciate the good work they did, say, saving ex-racing greyhounds in a cruelty case — just an example; I have no clue if this actually happened — without also vicariously supporting, oh, animal rights whackos teaching people how to build incendiary devices.

I am not an alarmist by nature, but these people make me nervous.

Believe that once they are done eliminating all the fur ranchers, all the pet shops, all the Pit Bulls and their drug-dealing owners, they will run over something you treasure. The more support these people get, the more powerful they become, and the further they can advance their cause. They nibble at the weakest links in the dog fancy — perhaps ear cropping, or breeding, or using dogs to hunt — but never forget their ultimate goal: Total animal liberation.

Total.

So I guess the question in my mind is, why would anybody want to support an animal rights group?

If everybody who donates to the HSUS or PETA would instead donate to their local animal shelter, think how the conditions could improve for the animals that those places save! The local humane organizations are the ones who are doing the dirty work, and they don’t have the multi-million dollar budget that these groups have. Better yet, if groups like the EBA or ADOA had half the support of the HSUS, we would have a powerful tool at our disposal to help fight BSL, rather than embrace it.

I am sincerely asking anybody who reads this blog: Please read the fine print! Check that ingredient label. If you are signing a petition — even if it seems overall good — find out who started it. If you get a set of address labels with a plea for donations in the mail, ask yourself how they can afford such propaganda if they are hard at work helping animals.

On an unrelated but equally important note, if you are writing in support of a piece of legislation, read the whole bill. Find out which groups are supporting it, and why. Read read read! For example, there is a new federal anti-dog fighting bill — even though dog-fighting is illegal countrywide — which is garnering support on the pretense that we need felony laws to get at the evil dog fighters. However, it also contains language that would illegalize using the USPS to ship “paraphernalia,” which could be anything from a breaking stick, to a treadmill belt, to a collar, to a historical book, to a tug toy.

Educate yourself. Read the fine print. Know what you are supporting before you ally your good name with something you don’t fully understand.
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ReleaseTheHounds · Apr 23, 2010

John Goodwin Exposed

ReleaseTheHounds · Apr 23, 2010

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Get in touch with Joe Woodall and try to get an interview on what he went through and how his dogs were given back to him in lame condition with injuries.

Vicki · Apr 23, 2010

All you need: HumaneWatch

We have it as an RSS feed here, too. It's been up for two months and it's an amazing site.

DryCreek · Apr 23, 2010

I love humanewatch!

They have a document library you could use.

Dream Pits · Apr 23, 2010

ok thanks for the info adivina and 3mta3

Jelet · Apr 23, 2010

IS HSUS trying to take credit/donations for the work of others? - KC DOG BLOG

familydude · Apr 23, 2010

I just watched all those vidoes of joes dogs and im just in shock. they really messed up his dogs bad.

Zoe · Apr 24, 2010

DryCreek said: ↑

I love humanewatch!
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Me, too! I was actually just reading the article on the Canadian seal hunt. Good stuff!

Dream Pits · Apr 24, 2010

yeah i feel bad for him. He wasnt hurting no1 and you know the bond between a man and his dogs. His little house dog was roaming around their chain spots and everything. He took it tho, i would have moved my dogs... i would say just move all together but he has kids and everything. Just sad

DryCreek · Apr 24, 2010

We have HSI/Canada here.

http://www.hsicanada.ca/

Buck E. Owens · Apr 24, 2010

what causes the feet or ankle to collapse? lack of movement?

Zoe · Apr 24, 2010

DryCreek said: ↑

We have HSI/Canada here.

http://www.hsicanada.ca/
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Lovely. :rolleyes:

big dan · Apr 24, 2010

It is not just the pit bull these asses are after.they have ruin the tenn walking horses world also .with peta and huus shutting down the horse meat plants in the us it has drove horse prices to nothing.a walking horse they would once bring 10000$ u will be lucky to get 500 t0 a 1000$ for it

ShakaZ · Apr 24, 2010

WOW, Dan. That's fucked up.

big dan · Apr 25, 2010

Yea these horses r checked at some show by the usda befor they go in the ring and pass inspecition and when they come out they fine something wrong with they.then they fine the trainers and owners.that have shut down whole shows and are ruining them.its a damn shame because a lot of these show are put on for charities.

Robber · Apr 25, 2010

Buck E. Owens said: ↑

what causes the feet or ankle to collapse? lack of movement?
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In pups it can be nutrition, but in this case it is probably prolonged inactivity leading to weakened muscle tone/tendons. Hopefully it improved after he was back home and out and about. They also get the dogs so damn fat there that is is hard on them. I witnessed this firsthand with the dogs in the bust in the midwest last year - several of them developed some mild hip dysplasia from lack of muscle tone and mobility to keep things tight, coupled with the fact that many of them were probably 15 to 20 pounds overweight, which is a hell of a lot for what should be a 45 lb dog. One of the workers there told me they were worried about this one dog because she wasn't eating all of her food. The dog is in a kennel all day with nothing to do, with about 300 other dogs barking and going crazy stressing it out, and it's 15 lbs overweight - what the hell would it want to eat for???:mad::mad:

ShakaZ · Apr 25, 2010

The so called Humane Society are a bunch of lack wits. I did hear that Weezer got better though.

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