Poisonous Snake Bites

Dex and benadryl around here is all I have ever used. She kills everything in her chain spot this one got her good but a few pills in hotdogs and a few days in the house and all is good.

 

Probably the only good thing about where I live is I don't have to worry about anything like venomous snakes, Spiders, bugs or any kind of large predators, anything that gets in the chainspots here gets killed and usually eaten. Worst thing I have to worry about here is mosquitos.

Real nice looking bitch slowstarter! Even with the drooping side of her face. Lmao kinda looks like a small Corso with her face like that.

 

I've heard mixed reviews on it....anybody have any dogs get bit while on this?

 

I'd also like to know if anyone has used this vaccine and then suffered a Rattlesnake bite. So far I've been lucky and I never let my dog offleash even when we're in the middle of nowhere, you just never know. Even with the precautions I take I could still easily see a dog suffering a bite and it gives me peace of mind.

The day I mentioned above, I was warned by a fellow hiker that there was a rattler right on the edge of the trail......if I didn't know beforehand I could probably tell you how well it works. Thankfully that wasn't the case because rattlers have much more toxic venom than many of the snakes listed in this thread.

 

The vaccine is most likely some type of synthetic snake venom to build up the dogs resistance to the poison.

 

Some info I found
No less an authority than UC Davis School of Veterinary Medicine states:

“…Although there may be circumstances where a rattlesnake vaccine may be potentially useful for dogs that frequently encounter rattlesnakes, there remains little fact-based data to support the efficacy of the vaccine to date.”

In fact, the vaccine is not currently stocked and is not advocated for animals seen at the UC Davis Veterinary Medical Teaching Hospital. [1]

“Potentially” useful? Weren’t any safety and efficacy studies on dogs performed by the manufacturer?

Drum roll, please….and the answer is…NO. According to the 2011 American Animal Hospital Association’s Canine Vaccine Guidelines:

“Field efficacy and experimental challenge data in dogs are not available at this time.” [2]
If my dogs encounter a rattlesnake, and IF one of them is bitten by a rattlesnake, the vaccine MAY be effective slowing the effects of the venom. The UC Davis School of Veterinary Medicine says there is little fact-based evidence, and does not stock the vaccine. Tests of the vaccine were not done on dogs. There are known adverse side effects from the ingredients in the vaccine.There are known cases of dogs becoming extremely ill and/or dying after receiving the vaccine. I have to ask this question: As there weren’t safety or efficacy studies done on dogs, are we paying for the privilege of OUR dogs being used as test subjects?

 

I can tell u vets here will tell you, its expensive as in 1200 bucks and its about a 50 percent chance it won't work..The vets here give antibiotics

 

▲▲▲▲ friend had one bit 2 weeks ago and this is what the vet said....so its recent info

 

I'm not sure where all of you are hearing it's expensive. $1200 you have to be kidding me. My vet charged me $15 per shot and the dog only needed two shots.

 

This came straight from a local vet ...1200 bucks..I dont use vets at all.But this came from a local vet.

 

And like I said , he claimed it was about a 50 percent chance it won't work.

 

I see where the confusion is,,,I have never heard of this and I live in snake country..Ok I am talking about anti venom after a dog has been bit..as I said 1200 bucks and no garuntees..I would be very skeptical about the stuff your talking about.

 

It sounds like you're talking about the antivenom and not the vaccine. If the vaccine cost $1200 nobody would ever use it.

In regards to its efficacy I honestly have no idea but for $30 I feel a little better if my dog got nailed by a 6' western diamondback. My vet told me that you still need to get your dog medical care ASAP but at least the dog will live.

 

Oh yea,,,people are using it lol or they wouldn't stock it..You would be totally shocked at how much money people will fork out to keep ole Fido alive ! Don't be fooled by cost! now the prevention shot your speaking of ,I have to say it's bullshit..like sai said they would have to inject small amounts of venom to build a tolerance and I don't know if they would take this chance ..hey I been wrong before! maybe it's just some vitamins or some super shit to boost your dogs immune system .Injecting small amounts of venom,well anything could go wrong here..like I said ,I have been wrong before.

 

Vaccine theory posits that injecting a killed or weakened germ into the body will stimulate the immune system to produce antibodies, as if the body had been infected with a disease. The vaccine is supposed to mimic a natural infection, without actually causing an infection.

However, a rattlesnake bite is not an infection. A bite from a venomous snake puts a toxin into the body. How can there be a vaccine against a rattlesnake bite?

 

Here is a link explaining it.
http://www.redrockbiologics.com/rattlesnake_vaccine_faq.php

 

I actually agree with you here and I just don't believe It.I have a friend we call him snake man,first time I met him we were on a creek fishing for brim and I never saw this guy before.Water Mocasin comes down the creek under a log ,well this fool gets on his hands and knees and catches this dam Mocasin and gets bit.Well I'm kinda freakin thinkin we got to get this dude to the hospital and he says nah don't worry bout it.He kept right on fishin and drinkin Budwieser.Found out he been bit so many times his body had built up a immunity to snake bites.Now I will say the snake didn't get him real bad as the guy was pretty good at it,but it would have been enough for me or you to think we was gone die .

 

This is very intersting but what they are calling a vaccine ,is it so or just a immune booster.How often do you need the shot ? I consider a vaccine to be like a one shot in a life time deal but hey they call the flu vaccine a vaccine and you need it once a year.So yea I guess you could call this a vaccine.

 

If you read the whole article it talks about the frequency needed. For me it was the initial 2 injections followed by an annual booster not unlike most vaccinations in dogs.