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Golden King CH Silver bloodline

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by xlordxboris, Mar 31, 2015.

  1. Malik81

    Malik81 Pup

    hahahaha this guy had to show up in page 15. I wish he showed up much earlier.
     
  2. TROTLINE

    TROTLINE Top Dog

    I was just wondering if these guys travel to South America or Mexico? Or just do the Country Style in Eastern Europe!
     
  3. TROTLINE

    TROTLINE Top Dog

    ^^^^^ Just wondering if they ended up International and Cajun Rules breeding them to compete with Eastren Europe rules to me anyway could make A huge difference.
     
  4. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    Their rules suck and are crazy . If they're out of hold for 3 second I think after the turn is called they break them . They traveled to brazil and won but well . Bore Us was saying he was sick because he threw up 1 time lol DAMN and that was a sick dog . Man get over their selfs . Did you watch the shows Trot ? The last 1 on Kid And Black Mup ? They cut out the end where you don't see what happen . Kid turns that head just a little and doesn't go real straight . Mup did turn his head some to and you know what that means .
     
  5. Malik81

    Malik81 Pup

    Comments from my very little understanding and experience with this breed:

    Silver blood? Won't it be a bit unfair to Sorrell to say Silver blood when he is heavy Sorrell dog. Why should Balkans get any credit for Silver's existence? I would give them credit for Kid sure but not for Silver.

    And even if he was 100% Balkan bred dog, what's their to be very proud over his blood, maybe he is a good individual but to say good blood imo no.

    22 wins 17 loses 2 draws of his offsprings and I am sure not all loses are recorded unlike wins, so if we try to get full stats of loses we might see it exceeding wins. Would I breed to him NO.

    It's funny how you write off Kid's or Silver's lose (can't remember which one you claimed the dog had cold) based on God Pera's claim, however you are still riding on Silver's win over a dog that had to travel a rough trip before his match. I don't know which is more exhausting for a dog a flue or cold while he is home or a dog taking a 20+ hour trip. Yet I won't write off Silver's win but just try to be unbiased, it's key to improvement.

    Another biased situation is when you skipped Pera's two loses to brothers kennel last year.

    As far as traveling, one thing you should keep in mind is most dogmen in the US have jobs, and very limited resources that stops them from thinking of traveling. If a team of 3 want to travel with 3 dogs you are looking at $10K minimum, very few can afford that. Not to mention time factor as employees in the US don't enjoy the flexibility as Europeans.

    To be continued...
     
  6. Malik81

    Malik81 Pup

    Before anyone labels me as a hatter, I am not American and I don't live in the states, as a matter of fact I myslef got 2 dogs from the Balkan. I travel there frequently since my wife is from the region.

    That's being said here are my comments:

    Not impressed with him (Pepsi III) either, as I said you guys have good INDIVIDUALS but when it comes to breeding and lines you guys are way way way behind. You guys have the law in your favor therefore you can breed more and test more and match more, I've seen matches in certain Balkan country where police were attending and making bets.

    Reason of you having good individuals is you have more feedom to breed whatever to whatever, and have as many dogs and pups on your yard as you wish. In the US most dogmen are lucky if they can accommodate 30 dogs. Most dogs (good INDIVIDUALS) in the region are scatter bred, that's why it hard to find a dog that throws consistent quality when bred. Don't post peds of a million dogs with POR and ROM unless you have stats of percentage for these dogs, OR SHOW ME FEMALE DOGS WITH SUCH TITLES.

    Can you tell me why is it till today most good dogs in the region are based on Jumbo who is an American dog?
     
  7. Jacob

    Jacob Top Dog

    My wife from the region also,I bought dog fom Europe,After seeing what they look for and how they breed no more dealing with them.Wish i could get rid of the wife too
     
  8. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    I still say Black Mup/Silver would have been a good cross and put some complete indaviduals on the ground.I'm still puzzled why they never did the cross.
     
  9. Malik81

    Malik81 Pup

    That's enough to fuck them up anyway, it won't be hard to trace who traveled out of the country with dogs and came back in a period of 1-2 weeks, not to mention the destination or region is known which makes it easier.
     
  10. Malik81

    Malik81 Pup

    Cause they lack the art and knowledge, if one of the dogs you mentioned is a female they would have bred them together no doubt.
     
  11. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    I would have thought they bred down from each indavidual , what I am saying is why didn't they cross it ?
     
  12. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    Lol I think that's the art and knowledge part he's talking about. I think he's saying that they can stick two dogs together but don't have sense enough to look at what they are breeding together pedigree wise..... I think that's what he means
     
  13. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    I see , he was being sarcastic.cool.
     
  14. Jacob

    Jacob Top Dog

    Isnt this whole breeding thing SCIENCE what art got to do with it.These guys breed Best to Best even if its two good curs.In Fact i would say 90% are rough curs cause at end of day the win and the money is what its all about.The BREED as a whole package is not that important.Also i said 90% not all you got some good guys.
     
  15. Malik81

    Malik81 Pup

    Tyvm, I was trying to find a way to say it without being misunderstood again. :)
    But basically I was trying to say the same as bamaman.
     
  16. TROTLINE

    TROTLINE Top Dog

    I guess what I'm reading is they take the best they have BY there rules, and breed them!? If that's the case they wont have what we know as game dogs after A few breeding's it just doesn't work that way, you just breed for A dog with lock jaw, and in fact I have seen one or two of those in my life! LOL Plus they will get bigger and bigger over time. In 50 yrs. might not even look like what you have other places!
     
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  17. plane

    plane Big Dog

    Black Mup give nothing in breeding.
     
  18. plane

    plane Big Dog

    Sorry but I dont know what to said that this post is full of shit.

    Malik can you said why most APBT today are based on Dibo, dog who lived 60 yrs. ago?
    Malik do you know for any other line than Jumbo.
     
  19. plane

    plane Big Dog

    This is so wrong.
     

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