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Originally Posted by duece
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not to discredit anything the great barney fife has said or to insult you by any means...BUT zebo's FULL brother(vindicator)was a red/red nose. so therefore zebo either has the BB genetic trait(meaning he doesn't carry the red nose trait) or the Bb trait(meaning he does carry the trait). none of us really know but by seeing all of the heavy zebo dogs that are red/red nose he probally has the Bb trait.
you say that a lot of the peds are fake, this very well could be the truth. honestly i don't know, i'm not a huge zebo fan nor do i carry any of this blood, but like i said if his full brother is a red/red nose then he very well could throw red/red nose dogs(even if bred to a black dog, provided she also carries the red/red nose trait). like i said i'm not a huge zebo fan so i don't know all the stories of this line so your statement about hung papers could be right on the money just from the genetic stance it IS possible for there to be red/rednosed zebo dogs...with respect
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Zebo Dogs
by Barney Fife
My association with Zebo dogs started in 1976 and have always had some of this blood in my bulldogs. Unfortunately Zebo bred dogs have not been able to compete and win against decent competition for many years. Fanciers who seriously campaign their dogs have not been able to win with dogs from this family for quite a while.
There are a large number of fanciers who advertise Zebo bred dogs for sale none of these dogs have won even a single match. In addition many of the so called "pure Zebo" dogs have pedigrees that are fake. So you will see so called Zebo dogs that are red & white or even brindle which is a genetic impossibility.
I do not believe that you can have more than 1/4 Zebo blood and not have a serious problem with gaminess and lack of endurance the two major draw backs of this line.
Fanciers associate Zebo dogs with the power and hard mouth this strain had 15 years ago. Unfortunately there are no Zebo dogs today with these traits. There are plenty of fanciers who will claim to have high ability Zebo dogs but "NONE" have won any matches. It is all just a lot of talk.
There are a few good Zebo crosses that can still compete and win against good competition. My Dylan bred dogs, CH Dillenger, and GR CH Jinx are three Zebo crosses that won over good competition.
This winter I will breed my Vespers to GR CH Jinx. I own three dogs by Jinx x Juan's Mamba who is a 3/4 sister to Vesper and three out of four of these pups will be shown. Vespers is a vastly superior quality bitch than Mamba so I expect even better results. These dogs can compete and win against anything.
After the Zebo/Vindicator dogs were no longer able to compete by the mid 1980's Panther appeared. I conditioned and handled Panther to his only win. This was a really bad ass Zebo cross and he restored my interest in this line. However the Panther dogs have died off with nothing from this line being able to compete today. So even the Panther bred dogs are not good quality any more.
Try to find one Zebo bred dog that has won a legitimate show against decent competition. You will spend a lot of time trying to find a single winner. You wont even be able to find a game looser, because this line is not able to compete any more. All you will find are beautiful Pedigreed dogs that can not compete even against bottom level competition. I know this is not good news but I hope it will save you time and money. Few fanciers know this strain better than me. Ask around and see what you hear, even in their day Zebo dogs were a low percentage strain and now they are a zero percentage strain. All that is left are some crossess that can still win. There are not many of these quality Zebo crosses still around.
Final words from the late Barney Fife submitted to Pits Magazine before his sudden death on March 4th 1998
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