Half truth = 100 percent my problem

[pit#5]

A wile back A statement was made that my dogs killed a cat
But I know it could not have happened since dogs my dogs were with me and in the home
, But AND A REAL BUT now I have a problem just cause my dogs are innocent of that mauling Does not mean they are not capable of the desire to do that like many dogs, I can tell you as a child I kicked a Dachshund as he mauled a cat, the cat died, I have excepted this possibility Dogs will kill a cat, especially one that runs. Cats kill birds mice and other things also, Base animal instincts are intact the knife cuts both ways
Since people kill people and do unnecessary horrific things to people , The mistake of a dog killing a cat as much as it is the fault of the owner ,the dog is still guiltless in there actions there actions are of the most core instinctual desire, a desire that when directed
To benefit people protect people against vermin and beast that people don’t like,
So sorry people I tried to manage a 25% in door house cat 75% outside. Many times I could walk by my dogs wile I’d hold the cat and they would listen to me , I can’t say they liked the cat though, well they got the cat , last night and my wife saw it happen
Now she can’t even look at my dogs, I know it’s wrong but I am too realistic about the whole thing maybe I am messed up and un caring but I d seen this cat kill birds mice baby rabbits , well the knife cuts both ways for all creatures including us. My dogs lives are uncertain with my wife now I am all messed upped now.
Maybe I am the worst owner, I think I am not , but I tried to do the rite thing so people hit me as need be. I feel me and PB's are comeing to a end a part of me is about to die .

[gh32]

I wouldn't worry about it,dogs kill cats all the time.

[pit#5]

Well I’ve got a witch hunt going on here and I am loosing along with my PB’s as of now maybe she will soften It’s her or the dogs she says (don’t nobody say go for the dogs I also have 4 kids and such) I don’t have to tell you what her friends are saying
"Like what if it was a kid bull crap statements"
can any one help me with a way to soften this trying time with logic and truth people will except

[simms]

Well I’ve got a witch hunt going on here and I am loosing along with my PB’s as of now maybe she will soften It’s her or the dogs she says (don’t nobody say go for the dogs I also have 4 kids and such) I don’t have to tell you what her friends are saying
"Like what if it was a kid bull crap statements"
can any one help me with a way to soften this trying time with logic and truth people will except

Go the extra mile to secure your animals. Have you educated your children, do they understand thier boundries? if not ...you need to do this. Go the extra mile.

[Rickf3]

Simms is dead on...

In addition, does she see any value in those dogs or are they just the demons that killed her cat? Are they well trained and well mannered, or house pets that she co-exists with? Does she show any pride in owning them? If the answers to these are all bad, then you got some work to do... I hope you don't lose this one for everyone sake.

[FrankDublin]

Im with simms on this one

good luck but if all else fails I would go for the dogs

nagh just kidding

[junkyard]

put your foot down and stand your ground, there is two people in a relationship and four kids to worry about, tell her to leave her friends opinions out of it neither she or you are married to them. the dogs are yours and you still have them, so do what ever it takes to keep em, explain how many of these dogs go to the wrong homes and how many get dumped and have to go into shelters. i dont think you are to blame in anyway other than maybee thinking they werent going to get it. my dog loves cats, and not as friends. drop a bit of pride down the toilet and tell her you are fully too blame and you should have trained them better, take the dogs to regular training[ this wont make any difference to the dogs wanting to eat cats] then at least she will see that your taking the issue head on. get seperate kennel runs for the dogs and make em secure, you can build em with a few of the lads and over a few beers, will get done quickly, and again she will see you really want to make it work. unfortunantly because shes a woman your realy gonna have to cop it and listen to her shit for awhile but her adorable little puss got slayed its a normal reaction.
i would be most concerned about her friends putting their two cents in.
i cant stand my partners friends trying to give their overley biased opinion into any of our business, i dont stick my nose in their relationships , nor they should mine.

if its all works out, depending on your kids ages , make the dogs lives blend in with their lives alot, walking them with you ,spending lots of time with them so the dogs are more family orientated, that way if something ever happens again, the kids have the dogs aswell as you, = five onto one.


oh and dont buy another cat!

[pit#5]

It’s going to be slow to fix, if at all, friend #1 2 3 4 5 my wife called my BOSS
Her Mom Dad and More I can’t get them away. I can sit here all night no one will stick up for a Pit Bull it bugs me since dogs hunt, that’s what they do , and wile yes I should have covered all my bases with training , or raising them around a cat. Let’s get down to the real deal. My kids, these dog were raised along with my kids I have Zero issues
I have Zero issues with my dogs with people. They are NOT aggressive were it count’s
But they are Game, and people don’t under stand it at all.

[junkyard]

i hope you havent explained the whole gameness thing to em. they will find a way to turn your words around on you.

[redneck]

here is my take. if shes like most women they dont say what they really want, they want you to guess it and if you dont guess right they get the hump. i think she wants another cat.
buy her more cats then you have bulldogs. win win

[FrankDublin]

here is my take. if shes like most women they dont say what they really want, they want you to guess it and if you dont guess right they get the hump. i think she wants another cat.
buy her more cats then you have bulldogs. win win

sounds good to me but you would have to secure the dogs out side
no more running in the house cats are smart animals and they know how to get away but the cant do it in the house

[junkyard]

if thats the case change one of the dogs name, to kitty. safer and if they are house dogs it will sit on her lap at night.

[Dreamer]

here is my take. if shes like most women they dont say what they really want, they want you to guess it and if you dont guess right they get the hump. i think she wants another cat.
buy her more cats then you have bulldogs. win win

I think more cats with those dogs would be a mistake.

Wife is being very clear with what she wants and she (and she has backup) wants the dogs gone.

I don't think this is going to end well for the dogs. Pit5 already knows he made a mistake --- apparently these dogs weren't used to cats. That's a tense situation all the way around. Also, did wife want these dogs as much as you did, Pit 5? It often does not end well for the dogs if said dogs aren't wanted equally by those living under the same roof.

Be VERY careful where the dogs go if you must give them up....it MAY be better to put them down. Be careful of anyone that calls themselves "rescue" -- seriously.

Dreamer

[Dreamer]

]I have Zero issues with my dogs with people. They are NOT aggressive were it count’s

Believe me, with people like your wife, there is NO difference between aggression to people and aggression to other animals. She probably will never feel safe around them any more. Did she want these dogs?

Dreamer

[pit#5]

My wife wanted a PB Dreamer she restarted my PB obsession by telling me about one in the pound, after 10 years of no PB’s in my life what do you think I did with that little push from her.

I did keep the game concept to my self (Junkyard), but I think the love she has for the dogs seems to be showing through, My first male dog she is already saying we will keep , he is a very nice dog , my 5 month old female is hyper and started the chase is now who I am not sure of yet , but the truth is my wife really loves that dog even more , she sees that as if it were a dog version of her self , lean and feisty, go figure.
Fact is the dogs are loved by all in the family and it is frequent for them to sleep with the kids or my wife and I. The incident also was sad for my wife as if one of her kids did the wrong thing, she is at a point where she is saying strongly to them WHERES MY CAT and the dogs are averting there eyes from her, I know the dogs don’t know what she is talking about but at least they are subservient to her new found anger.(and there on speaking terms as of now LOL) I think my wife is becoming a dog woman so to speak,
Look lets get past this hyperbole, I will be ever more careful and I am making sure my kids under stand the boundaries of dogs and other animals in the home with each other. If I ever had another cat it would have to be so young that it would have to be a first born almost, I have found my dogs will leave a cat alone if it does not run from them and used to dogs No hissing no running. I have a pet rabbit all they do is sniff him and he sniffs back. The rabbit was raised with the dogs. But I know, never say never. I am not looking to get a cat at this time, but if by chance I found an abandoned infant cat innocent to the world I might but people that’s rare, and even I know day old kitten hiss. All in all thanks
For the help things are hopeful but I am not fully out of the dog house yet

[redneck]

if thats the case change one of the dogs name, to kitty. safer and if they are house dogs it will sit on her lap at night.

im hearing you junkyard!! i think we have solved the problem
infact you ever seen that pitbull disguise costume that makes them look like a poodle? maybe someone could knock you up a cat costume? just say its a new larger version of the typical moggy!!

[StopBSL]

The breed doesnt make a difference. I have a lab mix and a couple apbts who will kill cats. I also have some who wont.

Mush Mouth, Cadillac and Petey are 100% trustworthy with cats as long as we are present. This is because of their high drive to please ME. I trained them not to kill our cats and they listen. Now, do they like the cats? Hell no. Do I leave them unattended with the cats? Definitely not.

But, that's my situation. Cats and dogs or dogs and kids or dogs and dogs should not ever be left alone unsupervised. Just explain to your wife that you love your dogs and that you are to blame for not separating them fully when you weren't there. Me, I lock my cats in a room with their food and litter when any of the non cat friendly dogs are out. The dogs arent roaming when I am not here either.

Tell her that prey drive exists in all animals and in sporting bred dogs of any breed it will be a little higher. Labs, APBTs, GSDs are all more likely to kill cats than poodles. But, explain to her that human devotion is a huge part of your dogs personalities and it WONT be your children. (Only if this is true for your dogs. And, please make sure your kids know how to be safe with dogs)

In the end it's a big decision. But, I wouldnt spend 1 day with someone who thinks my dogs are demons. I dont even associate with my own family who still feels that way. I gave them all time to meet the dogs and get to know them, most love them. But, anyone who doesn't doesn't love me either. that's my take on it. Your kids come first I am sure, but your wife seems weakminded if she is so taken back by this. . no offense.

[scooter]

I want to weigh in just a minute. First I am so sorry you are going through this mess. Secondly, it is possible to get your PBs and cats to get along but you MUST do it correctly.
I have only gamebred APBTs. I also have 4 cats. I keep 2-3 dogs inside and all 4 cats as well. My house is a real nice size, so we aren't exactly cramped up. Out of the 3 dogs in the house, my female is the cat killer wanna be. She practically foams at the mouth and trembles when she sees a new kitten.
I have had lots of kittens around her and I have to do the same thing each and every time a new kitten is on the place.

First you have to get the kitten before it learns to hiss and spit and claw at the dog. It needs to be very young. Then you introduce that kitten to the dog very slowly. You must be patient. Slap the dog on the nose if it tries to bite or lunges at the cat. Tell the dog NO NO NO. Show the dog that you love the kitten. Repeat over and over for a course of days.
It won't be long that the dog will accept the cat as one of your pack and will not harm the cat.
The cat won't be afraid, and won't run from the dog and get chased that turns on the prey drive in the dog. Watch and keep close supervision at all times and all should be well.
Go get your wife a darling little kitten. Make dang sure it is quite young, like 6 wks old. Give her the kitty and tell her that you are both going to train the dog to love the cat. Make her a part of the process if she is willing. If not, do it yourself. Remember, go slow and keep the cat away from the dog unless you are handling the cat. Lots of luck.

[FrankDublin]

and how are your dogs bred scooter

[junkyard]

what does that have to do with this thread frank?